Our analysis of the closure of the Tavistock's Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) for children when it was announced back in July 2022. The discussion then forays into a chat around why women choose to 'transition', then about radical feminism and why women - even inside feminism - are considered disloyal or viewed with suspicion if develop themselves subjectively as they age. The heart of this, we conclude, is because whilst human beings develop, objects do not. So whilst women are regarded as objects it will be the case that when a woman evolves, develops, or transforms subjectively, she will be regarded with suspicion and understood as a misbehaving object and baffling subject.