Do we ever have any real conversations about race in America, or is everyone just talking at each other? For this podcast, Rob has a raw, honest, and incredibly interesting discussion on race with Buck Sexton, a White conservative, and Marc Lamont Hill, a Black leftist. The three of them get into some thorny topics, and things get contentious. The conversation even goes in some unexpected directions. But by the end, Buck, Marc, and Rob all have a very real understanding of where the other two are coming from. You do not want to miss this.

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