Poker superfan Jay Kelly tried to hook Gloria Jackson up with Carlos more than a year ago, when the two women first met. She joins Andrew, Carlos, and Gloria to help tell the story of her and Gloria’s friendship and Carlos and Gloria’s podcast-born romance.

We highly recommend listening to Gloria Jackson’s first appearance on Episode 401. It’s a fantastic episode in its own right and a good introduction to this conversation.

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Jay Kelly is a poker superfan who lives in London but dreams of Las Vegas. She attempted to introduce Gloria and Carlos a year before they actually met!

Gloria Jackson is a mother of five and a 10+ year professional poker player.