Our conversation from Episode 488 continues (without Nate, unfortunately). We even talk some poker strategy!

For more Joel:

First appearance on Episode 409

Another two-part conversation begins with Episode 484

Joel’s blog
Old Man James
DJ Renegade on Soundcloud
Joel’s book Ideas of Improvisation

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Joel Porter-Dias is a poet who has earned a living from gambling for over thirty years. He has also been a DJ, a computer programmer, and probably a few other things we didn’t even get to ask him about. His book Ideas of Improvisation is available from Thread Makes Blanket Press.