This week Jake, Heather, and Gabe all catch up with Fansided's Redbird Rants site editor and co-host of the "Dealin the Cards" podcast Josh Jacobs to discuss the recent articles written by Ken Rosenthal and Katie Woo about Ryan Helsley as well as the other two notable rental arms Steven Matz and Erick Fedde. The gang also discusses the "golden at bat" rule and other rule changes made in recent seasons. Finally we wrap up with a mock 3 team trade that Jakes "Enigma machine trade creator brain" cooked up and discuss/pick it apart! A fun conversation for all Cardinals fans!