Still Unbelievable!

Episode 66 - Abortion and the Texas heartbeat bill


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In this short episode, Matthew addresses comments made in a recent episode of Unbelievable? where two Christians discussed abortion. The show was a good example of two people disagreeing (mostly) with grace, but several comments made by the anti abortion participant needed addressing.


show link: 

1) https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Abortion-and-the-Texas-heartbeat-bill-Stephanie-Gray-Connors-vs-Rev-Bromleigh-McCleneghan


Human rights and abortion.

2) https://www.ipas.org/our-work/human-rights-and-abortion/

3) https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/sexual-and-reproductive-rights/abortion-facts/

4) https://reproductiverights.org/un-human-rights-committee-asserts-that-access-to-abortion-and-prevention-of-maternal-mortality-are-human-rights/


Questions answered about the law:

5) https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-abortion-law-explained/

Science of the heartbeat

6) https://www.livescience.com/65501-fetal-heartbeat-at-6-weeks-explained.html

7) https://www.wired.com/story/heartbeat-bills-get-the-science-of-fetal-heartbeats-all-wrong/

Death of Savita Halappanavar

8) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar


1967 PDF putting forward different views. 

9) https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.57.12.2163


10) https://www.un.org/sites/un2.un.org/files/udhr.pdf


Stephanie on contraception

11) https://lozierinstitute.org/a-scientific-view-of-when-life-begins/


Canada: 15.2 USA: 20.8 UK: 17

13) https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/abortion-rates-by-country

Abortion rates are higher in countries where abortion is illegal.

14) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-abortion-idUSKCN0Y22QO

USA has twice the rate of Teen Pregnancy as Canada

15) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4852976/


the science is not settled on a new life

16) https://www.wired.com/2015/10/science-cant-say-babys-life-begins/


Clips:

1:54 - 3:04 Intro to the show

4:38 - 5:38 Stephanie affirms a human rights argument against abortion

14:37 - 16:42 Justin asks about the Texas Heartbeat bill, Stephanie outlines the heartbeat bill

17:35 - 18:20 Justin asks Stephanie if she is in favour of the law

22:56 - 23:17 Stephanie responds to push back that it's 'not really a heart beat'. 

23:53 - 25:14 Stephanie responds to a challenge about abortion being a health care activity and that suggesting otherwise is manipulative.

31:31 - 32:54 Stephanie asks the very important question of what constitutes human rights 

42:05 - 42:21 What responsibilities do civil societies expect? 

43:41 - 43:46  it's a separate life at fertilisation.

47:24 - 47:33 dog and cats - sperm egg fusion, no one debates that. 

47:52 - 48:11 UN declaration of human rights says everyone has the right to life.

53:58 - 54:17 people who claim to be Christians won't embrace abortion.

54:45 - 55:10 humans are so valuable top god he suffered and died.

55:10 - 55:16 repeats science tells us human life at fertilisation

1:09:46 - 1:10:03 Stephanie says US and Canada abortion rates are essentially the same

1:13:33  "that moment", equality begins when we begin, 

1:14:06 - 1:14:35 ethical response 


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