Show Notes This month we (in our view) bravely jump into a completely different form of Apologetics - Presuppositional Apologetics. It can be a bid disorientating as in Andrew’s words it can be summarised as “God’s word says you are wrong so you have no case to make". Frances is more measured with her summary: “the only proof of the Christian position is that, unless its truth is presupposed, there is no possibility of proving anything at all”. We give a brief history starting from Cornelius Van Til “the Father of presuppositionalism”. It is linked with Calvinism, also called ‘Reformed Theology’. It’s use in other religions and branches in Christianity is informative, as it’s usual bedfellow – Young Earth Creationism. There will be a Part 2 on this next year. Links:If you need more we recommend the treatment by the Reasonable Doubts podcast – episodes 97 & 98. Frances mentioned an article by Keith A. Mathison- here’s the link:<a href="https://tabletalkmagazine.com/posts/christianity-and-van-tillianism-2019-08/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://tabletalkmagazine.com/posts/christianity-and-van-tillianism-2019-08/</a> Doubts Aloud Links:Please give feedback and ask questions using: doubtsaloud@gmail.com Join the Facebook Group discussions: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/1023280847835278/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.facebook.com/groups/1023280847835278/</a> Meet us all in person again at the monthly “Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group” in central London, see: <a href="https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London</a>

Show NotesThis month we (in our view) bravely jump into a completely different form of Apologetics - Presuppositional Apologetics. It can be a bid disorientating as in Andrew’s words it can be summarised as “God’s word says you are wrong so you have no case to make". Frances is more measured with her summary: “the only proof of the Christian position is that, unless its truth is presupposed, there is no possibility of proving anything at all”. We give a brief history starting from Cornelius Van Til “the Father of presuppositionalism”. It is linked with Calvinism, also called ‘Reformed Theology’. It’s use in other religions and branches in Christianity is informative, as it’s usual bedfellow – Young Earth Creationism. There will be a Part 2 on this next year. Links:If you need more we recommend the treatment by the Reasonable Doubts podcast – episodes 97 & 98. Frances mentioned an article by Keith A. Mathison- here’s the link:https://tabletalkmagazine.com/posts/christianity-and-van-tillianism-2019-08/ Doubts Aloud Links:Please give feedback and ask questions using: doubtsaloud@gmail.com Join the Facebook Group discussions:https://www.facebook.com/groups/1023280847835278/ Meet us all in person again at the monthly “Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group” in central London, see:https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London

Show Notes This month we (in our view) bravely jump into a completely different form of Apologetics - Presuppositional Apologetics. It can be a bid disorientating as in Andrew’s words it can be summarised as “God’s word says you are wrong so you have no case to make". Frances is more measured with her summary: “the only proof of the Christian position is that, unless its truth is presupposed, there is no possibility of proving anything at all”. We give a brief history starting from Cornelius Van Til “the Father of presuppositionalism”. It is linked with Calvinism, also called ‘Reformed Theology’. It’s use in other religions and branches in Christianity is informative, as it’s usual bedfellow – Young Earth Creationism. There will be a Part 2 on this next year. Links:If you need more we recommend the treatment by the Reasonable Doubts podcast – episodes 97 &amp; 98. Frances mentioned an article by Keith A. Mathison- here’s the link:<a href="https://tabletalkmagazine.com/posts/christianity-and-van-tillianism-2019-08/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tabletalkmagazine.com/posts/christianity-and-van-tillianism-2019-08/</a> Doubts Aloud Links:Please give feedback and ask questions using: doubtsaloud@gmail.com Join the Facebook Group discussions: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/1023280847835278/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.facebook.com/groups/1023280847835278/</a> Meet us all in person again at the monthly “Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group” in central London, see: <a href="https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London</a>

Episode 70 - The One on Presuppositional Apologetics

The Doubts Aloud Podcast! Join us as we allow doubts to be voiced regarding faith, religion and worldviews. Two of us have been Christians and none of us believe, so our current conclusion is that the doubts regarding Christianity are justified, but we are keen to question ourselves and hear Christian arguments and hear from Christian guests. Our background means that our conversation with Christianity will tend to dominate over other faiths. We are Frances Janusz, Andrew Whyte and Ed Atkinson. We value the use of reason and evidence to assess matters of faith and worldview. (Should we doubt those assumptions?). We will consider philosophy, theology, Biblical Studies, human experience from the thinking layman’s viewpoint. We greatly value respect for those we disagree with and engaging in discussion. Meet us all in person at the monthly Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group in central London https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London Andrew Whyte one of the hosts of Doubts Aloud has his own "Christian Diversity" YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIyesuRCrlRFYCYs_XMDKhd_MAyeF8esH For those not familiar with the Christian Premier Radio Unbelievable Show that we praise, it is podcast as “Unbelievable?” and on the web: https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable Andrew’s appearances on Unbelievable were 31/10/2009 on the Return of Jesus, 26/04/2014 with Greg Boyd on Doubt and 10/07/2015 with Nabeel Qureshi on Christian Diversity. Doubts Aloud Links: Please give feedback and ask questions using : doubtsaloud@gmail.com Join the Facebook Group discussions: https://www.facebook.com/groups/247243319147813 Meet us all in person at the monthly “Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group” in central London, see: https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London

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The Doubts Aloud Podcast!Join us as we allow doubts to be voiced regarding faith, religion and worldviews. Two of us have been Christians and none of us believe, so our current conclusion is that the doubts regarding Christianity are justified, but we are keen to question ourselves and hear Christian arguments and hear from Christian guests. Our background means that our conversation with Christianity will tend to dominate over other faiths. We are Frances Janusz, Andrew Whyte and Ed Atkinson. We value the use of reason and evidence to assess matters of faith and worldview. (Should we doubt those assumptions?). We will consider philosophy, theology, Biblical Studies, human experience from the thinking layman’s viewpoint. We greatly value respect for those we disagree with and engaging in discussion. Meet us all in person at the monthly Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group in central London https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-LondonAndrew Whyte one of the hosts of Doubts Aloud has his own "Christian Diversity" YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIyesuRCrlRFYCYs_XMDKhd_MAyeF8esHFor those not familiar with the Christian Premier Radio Unbelievable Show that we praise, it is podcast as “Unbelievable?” and on the web:https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/UnbelievableAndrew’s appearances on Unbelievable were 31/10/2009 on the Return of Jesus, 26/04/2014 with Greg Boyd on Doubt and 10/07/2015 with Nabeel Qureshi on Christian Diversity.Doubts Aloud Links:Please give feedback and ask questions using :doubtsaloud@gmail.comJoin the Facebook Group discussions:https://www.facebook.com/groups/247243319147813Meet us all in person at the monthly “Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group” in central London, see:https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London

The Doubts Aloud Podcast! Join us as we allow doubts to be voiced regarding faith, religion and worldviews. Two of us have been Christians and none of us believe, so our current conclusion is that the doubts regarding Christianity are justified, but we are keen to question ourselves and hear Christian arguments and hear from Christian guests. Our background means that our conversation with Christianity will tend to dominate over other faiths. We are Frances Janusz, Andrew Whyte and Ed Atkinson. We value the use of reason and evidence to assess matters of faith and worldview. (Should we doubt those assumptions?). We will consider philosophy, theology, Biblical Studies, human experience from the thinking layman’s viewpoint. We greatly value respect for those we disagree with and engaging in discussion. Meet us all in person at the monthly Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group in central London https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London Andrew Whyte one of the hosts of Doubts Aloud has his own "Christian Diversity" YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIyesuRCrlRFYCYs_XMDKhd_MAyeF8esH For those not familiar with the Christian Premier Radio Unbelievable Show that we praise, it is podcast as “Unbelievable?” and on the web: https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable Andrew’s appearances on Unbelievable were 31/10/2009 on the Return of Jesus, 26/04/2014 with Greg Boyd on Doubt and 10/07/2015 with Nabeel Qureshi on Christian Diversity. Doubts Aloud Links: Please give feedback and ask questions using : doubtsaloud@gmail.com Join the Facebook Group discussions: https://www.facebook.com/groups/247243319147813 Meet us all in person at the monthly “Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group” in central London, see: https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London

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