My galvanizing 1:1 with one of the coolest writers out there, Ottessa Moshfegh.

We discussed: (1) what happens when an artist is open about their world-sized ambitions; (2) the connection between the artist and the "god" (for lack of a better word) of creativity; and (3) how to create the kind of art that Mick Jagger himself recommends: the kind that "achieves madness."

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