"Humble yourself, and let's talk about just how much you get rejected." Jared Thorne skypes in from his new home and new photo teaching job at Ohio State University at Columbus to talk about his experiences as a photographer and his desire to both understand and challenge preconceived notions of Black identity. His investigation (and a girlfriend) will take him to South Africa where he explores the "myth of harmony" since the end of Apartheid. Check out his work at http://jaredthorne.com Some links to references mentioned in the show: James Nacthwey http://www.jamesnachtwey.com Ernest Cole https://www.nyu.edu/greyart/exhibits/ernest_cole/colehome.html Documentary: Concerning Violence http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3263690/ David Goldblatt http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2010/jul/02/apartheids-twisted-dream/ Dineo Seshee Bopape http://stevenson.info/artists/bopape.html Hosts: Michael Chovan-Dalton and Kai McBride Visit thephotoshow.org Follow us on Twitter twitter.com/realphotoshow and on Instagram instagram.com/realphotoshow/ Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/realphotoshow Music by @pataphysics-1