It was the shocking protest that started it all. After months, Ali and Sam finally track down the two young people — Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland — who shocked the world when they targeted a beloved Van Gogh painting with a can of soup. As they await their trials, they get candid: What have their controversial tactics accomplished? What will it take for them to stop? How do they feel about Aileen Getty’s oil fortune funding the movement? And after a year of reporting, will Ali and Sam finally meet Aileen?

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If you want to check out Leah Hunt-Hendrix and Astra Taylor’s book, it’s called Solidarity: The Past, Present, and Future of a World-Changing Idea.

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