Landon Roussel's recently-published On the Primitive Way (http://www.ontheprimitiveway.com/) tells the story of his relationship with his brother, Cory--a relationship long strained by Cory's struggles with addiction--and their pilgrimage on the Camino Primitivo. In this episode, Landon talks more about his experience on the Primitivo and the ways that pilgrimage offers room for healing and reconciliation. He's followed by Rachel Grimes, who shares some stories from her pilgrimage on the Camino Francés, and some thoughts specifically on common Camino expressions, like "the Camino provides." Finally, Dave offers some thoughts on 2015 pilgrim statistics from Santiago, and the rise of the Americans.