In this episode, Julia Jones talks with Naomi James,  CEO of Refining NZ about Refining NZ's significant strategic pivot to support NZ's vision of a lower carbon economy. 

Julia and Naomi talk through the courageous and progressive leadership Naomi demonstrates, and the need to ensure that aspiration is coupled with strong execution to achieve what is needed for the transition to a low carbon economy.  This is not about chance or luck, it's about facing reality, strong planning, stakeholder engagement and courage to do what is hard. 

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