This episode is all about estrangement and Clemmie's guest is Harriet Shearsmith, a mum of three, parenting creator, author of Mummin’ It and the podcaster behind Unfollowing Mum.

Harriet shares her story of how she became estranged from her mum, as well as her experience of motherhood, cycle breaking and estrangement online with her community; with a little bit of fun, fashion and life chucked in for good measure!

For her sensational tiktoks and outfit videos, you can find Harriet on Instagram @tobyandroo.

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