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  • Ethics in early childhood classrooms: A framework for educators

    We welcome back Dr. Kym Vanderbilt of Lehman College, this time joined by her former students, Kelsey Nova and Cyndhia Silvero. We discuss how Dr. Vanderbilt’s graduate students create case studies based on ethical challenges they themselves have faced. Ms. Nova and Ms. Silvero share their own case studies. We also discuss the ongoing struggle for fair compensation for early childhood educators, especially assistant teachers and education directors.

    Overview

    00:15-00:40 Intros

    00:40-02:26 Objectives in assigning scenarios of ethically complex situations

    02:26-05:06 Kelsey’s ethical dilemma scenario

    05:06-06:14 Potential solutions

    06:14-08:13 Cyndhia’s ethical dilemma scenario

    08:13-09:14 Improving children’s experiences at more elite schools

    09:14-10:37 Making schools more sensitive to cultural diversity

    10:37-14:51 Does the State encourage teacher ed classes that discuss ethical issues

    14:51-15:25 Penalty Kick video promo

    15:25-17:00 Codes of ethics

    17:00-23:28 Issues to resolve for high quality early childhood programs

    23:28-26:55 Special ed issues

    26:55-28:58 Why do these issues exist?

    28:58-32:52 Denials/evaluations

    32:52-39:50 Issues for early childhood staff as employees:

                 Autonomy vs compliance, staff pay and disparities

    39:50-42:38 “Making this a career that people can stay in.”

    42:38-43:50 Outro

     

    Transcript

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    Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

    44 min
  • Play-In: Early childhood education needs more play

    Jon talks with Dr. Beverly Falk of the High Quality Learning Project, Lauren Monaco, New York City pre-K teacher, and experienced educators Gil Schmerler and Renee Dinnerstein. They discuss the centrality of play to children’s development as confirmed by recent research on how the brain works. A “play-in” in Manhattan calls for greater emphasis on play in early childhood classes.

    Overview

    00:15-01:17 Intros01:17-02:53 Play’s defining features02:53-03:22 Defining early childhood03:22-08:46 How children learn and develop08:46-11:46 How central has play been historically to early childhood education11:46-24:15 Conflict between free play and academics in the early childhood education field24:15-28:36 Current status of play in early childhood education in NYS and NYC28:36-29:10 Penalty Kick video promo29:10-31:36 Patterns in community-based centers and schools31:36-36:06 What should NYS and NYC do to reinstitute proper levels of play?36:06-39:41 NYCplays.org: Organizing: How listeners can get involved, 9/26 Play-in39:41-41:08 Importance of public/education officials speaking up41:08-42:07 Play and explicit literacy instruction should be paired42:07-44:37 Parents getting mixed messages44:37-45:47 You can’t rush neurological development45:47- Outro

    Transcript

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    References

    • Protectors of Play (POP) website: nycplays.org
    • Join NYC Plays’ free, all-ages Play-In with games, activities, and advocacy for play in schools: September 26, 12–2 pm, at Manny Cantor Center (197 East Broadway, 6th floor, NYC). Register here!
    • The High Quality Early Learning Project
    • (Podcast) February 20, 2026: NYC Kindergarteners are Being Diagnosed with Play Deprivation & We Can Change It
    • (Podcast) February 27, 2026: The Proposal to Fix Kindergarten that NYC's Mayor Needs to Hear
    • Renee Dinnerstein's book "Choice Time: How to Deepen Learning Through Inquiry and Play"
    • Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

      46 min
    • Educating for The World We Want: Learning to Citizen with The Brotherhood Sister Sol

      We share brief presentations from the fifth “Global Saturday Salons” that Ethical Schools is sponsoring with three international partners. Nando Rodriguez is the Senior Manager for Environmental Programming at the Brotherhood/Sister Sol (BroSis) in Harlem, NYC. Camila Salcedo, 16, is a sophomore at Thurgood Marshall Academy, and Elias DeLeon, 17, is a junior at KIPP Charter School. Both have been members of the BroSis community for several years. Together, they explore what happens when young people are trusted with real responsibility, meaningful relationships, and hands-on experiences in nature.

      This salon series, Learning to Citizen: Tales of Youth Voice, Agency, and Care, honors learners and educators who are already practicing care, enacting citizenship, and learning how to regenerate their communities and their world. Discover more at edfortheworldwewant.net.

      Transcription

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      References

      • To view Nando's slides presented during the Salon, [access the presentation here].
      • Want the full conversation?  Watch the complete Salon, including the plenary session, on YouTube.
      • Soundtrack by Poddington Bear. 

        38 min
      • What teens deserve: A creative out-of-school program

        Jon speaks with Dr. David Penberg, who ran the Liberty  Partnership Program at Bank Street College in the 1990s, and two of the participants, Madelyn Baez, and Tara Crichlow. Three decades later, Madelyn, Tara, and David explain how the program changed the trajectory of their lives. The Liberty Partnership was created as a college prep intervention for underserved and marginalized middle school students.   For the participants, it was a safe place of "uncomfortable empowerment" where their opinions were taken seriously in a simultaneously supportive and challenging environment.

        Overview

        00:00-00:45 Intro

        00:45-01:56 Liberty Partnership Program (LPP) origin and description

        01:56-03:36 What LPP felt like to Madelyn and Tara

        03:36-07:03 LPP structure and goals

        07:03-09:40 How Madelyn and Tara joined

        09:40-14:42 How experiences in the program were different from school

        14:42-19:10 Environmental conversations

        19:10-19:24 Trip to China

        19:24-20:49 Asset-based program; not about “fixing” the young people

        20:49-23:03 Opportunities and relationships

        23:03-26:04 “Uncomfortable empowerment”

        26:04-26:50 Options, opportunities, exposure, experience

        26:50-30:37 Bank Street as a place of safety and empowerment during time of demonization 

        of young people of color after Central Park jogger case

        30:37-35:03 Impact on students’ relationships with families and friends

        35:03-37:02 Impact on David’s life

        37:02-37:52 Remembering youths who died

        37:52-40:51 The larger Bank Street environment

        40:51-42:15 The “pure love” of the LPP community

        42:15- Outro

        Transcript

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        Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

        44 min
      • Educating for The World We Want: Learning to Citizen with Green School Bali

        We share brief presentations from the fourth "Global Saturday Salons” that Ethical Schools is sponsoring with three international partners. Dr. Benjamin Freud is the Strategic Lead for Regenerative Education at the Green School Bali, Manon Tiange is a Grade 12 student mapping labor invisibility and systemic inequality in Bali, and Scarlett Gonella is a Grade 12 student investigating plastic pollution and advocating for clean water access in Indonesia. They talked about an educational culture rooted in contribution to community. Learners are trusted to ask difficult questions, collaborate across generations, and imagine reform at the highest levels.

        This salon series is called Learning to Citizen: Tales of Youth Voices, Agency, and Care. Our goal is to honor learners and teachers who are already doing the work practicing care, enacting citizenship, and learning how to regenerate their worlds. Discover more and join us on May 30th to learn with members of The Brotherhood Sister Sol: edfortheworldwewant.net

         

        41 min
      • Literature as identity-affirming, teaching as liberatory

        Dr. Chantal Francois and Dr. Jen McLaughlin Cahill, co-authors of Identity-Affirming Literacies in Schools, discuss their time at the school they call Pearl Street Collaborative, a progressive secondary school on Manhattan’s Lower East Side that prioritizes teacher inquiry and collaboration. Schedules include time for teachers to meet frequently with grade and content colleagues. Drawing on the work of Freire and Lilia Bartolomé, Drs. Francois and McLaughlin Cahill used literature to support students' identities, including by integrating an LGBTQ+ focus into English classes.

         

        Overview

        00:00-00:52 Intros

        00:52-03:36 Humanizing pedagogy

        03:36-04:44 Relationships and humanizing pedagogy

        04:44-07:35 Scheduling facilitating creation and maintenance of faculty relationships

        07:35-10:04 Collaboration as modeling for students

        10:04-10:21 Pearl Street Collaborative

        10:21-13:24 Literacy as more than reading

        13:24-18:53 Reading and teaching as political

        18:53-23:17 Mission statement as a meaningful document

        23:17-31:23 Structuring literacy instruction around independent reading and reading whole books

        31:23-36:44 LGBTQ+ identify-affirming literacies

        36:44-40:34 Impact on students of LGBTQ+ focus

        40:34- Outro

        References

        • Book Identity-Affirming Literacies in Schools by Dr. Chantal Francois and Dr. Jen McLaughlin Cahill: buy it on Routledge or find it on Amazon
        • Article by  Dr. Lilia Bartolomé "Beyond the methods fetish: Toward a humanizing pedagogy"
        • Transcript

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          Soundtrack by Podington Bear

          43 min
        • Upskilling teachers: Elements of social justice-focused teaching

          We welcome back Dr. Anthony Johnston to speak about his new book, "Introduction to Secondary Teaching: Blending Wisdom, Research, and Social Justice.” Dr. Johnston explores teacher wisdom of practice, social justice pedagogy, evidence-based practices, and adolescent brain research. He identifies the foundation of all classroom teaching as teacher identity, teacher presence, teacher passion, and teacher stance.

          36 min
        • Global Conversations: Nature, Place, and Education, Salon #3

          We share brief presentations from the third of the “Saturday Salons” that Ethical Schools is sponsoring with three international partners. Kerry Kirk Pflugh is the executive director of the New Jersey School of Conservation. She also comes with extensive background experience at the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection. Tom Roderick is the author most recently of Teach for Climate Justice: A Vision for Transforming Education. He was also the Founding Executive Director of Morningside Center for Teaching Social Responsibility. Deb L. Morrison is a Learning Designer and Advisor at the University of Washington and a Lead Author on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Assessment Report 7. They talk about how educators can respond to the urgent environmental crises we face.

          Learn more and join at globalconversations.net

          31 min
        • School Choice: Who Does the Choosing?

          We welcome back Dr. Ujju Aggarwal, assistant professor at The New School, to speak about her book, Unsettling Choice: Race, Rights, and the Partitioning of Public Education. In Unsettling Choice, Dr. Aggarwal focuses on the intersection of public education and gentrification. The book is based on her work with mothers at a Head Start center in NYC. We discuss the race and class discrimination the parents faced and whether exclusion is inherent in school choice programs.

          Overview

          00:00-00:56 Intros

          00:56-07:13 Working with Head Start mothers in Manhattan’s Community School District 3

          07:13-09:15 Connection between school choice and austerity

          09:15-19:17 Issues mothers faced in choosing schools for their children and their experiences

          19:17-24:06 The “post-Brown realignment” following the Brown v Board of Education Supreme Court decisions

          24:06-25:30 Parents as “consumers” rather than as “citizens”

          25:30-28:01 Can school choice exist without exclusion

          28:01-29:03 NYC Schools Chancellor Samuels and citywide integration

          29:03-32:21 Radical municipalism

          32:21- Outro

          Transcript

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          References

          • Book "Unsettling Choice: Race, Rights, and the Partitioning of Public Education" by Dr. Ujju Aggarwal
          • Listen to our first interview "Ujju Aggarwal on school choice, whiteness as property, and the “right to exclude” published in 2019
          • Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

            35 min
          • Global Conversations: Nature, Place, and Education, Salon #2

            We share brief presentations from the second of the “Saturday Salons” that Ethical Schools is sponsoring with three international partners. Sherry Johnson, Tribal Education Director of the Sisseton-Wahpeton-Oyate (South Dakota), Deepak Ramola, Founder of Project FUEL (India), and Charlotte Hankin of Coconut Thinking and the Green School (Bali) talk about the importance of stories in reshaping how we think about our relationship to the natural world.

            Learn more and register for the third salon on February 21 at globalconversations.net

            Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

            Transcript

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            52 min

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