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  • “The hate level is unreal”: fighting book bans and protecting librarians

    We speak with Amanda Jones, a school librarian in Livingston Parish, Louisiana. Ms. Jones is the author of “That Librarian: The Fight Against Book Banning in America.” The book recounts how speaking out for race- and gender-related books in libraries led to her being targeted and threatened by book-banning extremists. She describes initial abandonment by friends and colleagues who were afraid to speak up. But nationwide, librarians and their constituents are fighting back.  Ms. Jones includes tips for librarians and teachers facing attacks.

    Overview

    00:00-00:47 Intros

    00:47-01:35 What a Library Board of Control is

    01:35-02:16 What Amanda Jones said at Board of Control meeting

    02:16-02:33 Trevor Project

    02:33-03:19 Board of Control members’ responses

    03:19-04:48 What happened then

    04:48-05:38 Reactions by friends and neighbors to attacks 

    05:38-06:16 Reactions from school administrators and colleagues

    06:16-07:02 Changes over time

    07:02-09:09 Impact on children of marginalized communities of books with characters like them

    09:09-11:19 How decisions of what books to purchase for school libraries get made

    11:19-11:53 Guidelines

    11:53-13:58 Processes when there are book challenges

    13:58-14:45 Decision process in public libraries

    14:45-15:30 Appeal to courts

    15:30-18:39 Impetus for book banning campaigns

    18:39-20:49 Efforts to ban Palestinian books and informational events at libraries

    20:49-21:41 Censorship efforts are everywhere

    21:41-24:10 Where librarians can turn for help

    24:10-26:01 Organizations of parents who are under attack and other supporters

    26:01- Outro

    Transcript

    Click here to see the full transcription of this conversation. 

    References

    A Librarian from Louisiana fights book bans and the “haters” – The New York Times 

    Put Kids’ Interests First, This Librarian Insists – The New York Times

    PAHO Policy on the Prevention and Resolution of Harassment in the Workplace

    Get Ready Stay Ready: A Community Guide Toolkit 

    Amanda Jones’ Linktr.ee

     

     

    Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

    Photo by © Emily Kask

    30 min
  • NYC high school surveys: Disparities in student stress and support

    The authors of a recent Chalkbeat analysis discuss the Department of education’s 2023 high school survey, which shows girls, especially girls of color, have much higher stress levels, and feel less supported, than boys. Michael Elsen-Rooney, an NYC public school reporter; Kae Petrin, a data and graphics reporter; and Liza Greenberg, a Bronx High School of Science senior, unpack the data, which the DOE has largely disregarded.

    Overview

    00:00-00:51 Intros

    00:51-03:10 Annual NYC Dept. of Education student survey

    03:10-03:42 Chalkbeat

    03:42-06:13 Takeaways from citywide data

    06:13-06:39 Biggest gender gaps: “Stress” and “Worried about Learning” 

    06:39-08:06 Differential attention in taking the test?

    08:06-10:36 Causes of girls’ stress?

    10:36-11:33 Reported differences in teacher attention and support

    11:33-12:44 Black and multiracial students consistently report most negative experiences

    12:44-13:46 Response to Chalkbeat article from NYC Department of Education

    13:46-13:46 2024 student survey

    13:46-15:57 Using the data to improve academic and social-emotional experiences

    15:57-17:16 How the DOE can make the data more accessible to the general public

    17:16-18:29 More details on data

    18:29-22:27 Why hasn’t the DOE used the data to create guidelines for schools/teachers?

    22:27- Outro

    Transcript

    Click here to see the full transcription of this episode. 

    References

    Read the article in Chalkbeat NYC girls outperform boys in academics. But they’re unhappier in school.

    Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

    25 min
  • Middle schoolers as scholars: Critical participatory action research

    We speak with Dr. Sam Finesurrey, assistant professor of history at Guttman Community College, and three 2024 graduates of School in the Square (S2), a charter middle school in Washington Heights, Manhattan.  Dr. Finesurrey worked with 14 students on a research project studying S2 students’ social emotional learning, including reactions to the pandemic and faculty turnover.  Dr. Sam and the students talk about the process, what they found, and how the school modified policies in response to the study’s findings.

    Overview

    00:00-00:50 Intros

    00:50-02:22 Critical participatory research

    02:22-04:21 Participatory oral history project at School in the Square

    04:21-06:12 Meaningful findings

    06:12-10:05 Follow up on the results

    10:05-11:17 School in the Square’s response to the findings

    11:17-13:16 Role and impact of staff member Ms. Lilly

    13:16-14:17 Public presentations

    14:17-17:31 How the researchers have changed as a result of the project

    17:31-18:45 Effects on interviewees

    18:45-20:12 Confidentiality

    20:12- Outro

    Transcript

    Click here to see the full transcription of this episode. 

    References

    • More details about the project CUNY Academic Commons
    • Article published in the Middle School Journal coauthored by Dr. Sam and the students “Critical socio-emotional inquiry: A longitudinal oral history project led by middle school students on socio-emotional well-being”
    • Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

      24 min
    • Middle schoolers as scholars: Critical participatory action research

      We speak with Dr. Sam Finesurrey, assistant professor of history at Guttman Community College, and three 2024 graduates of School in the Square (S2), a charter middle school in Washington Heights, Manhattan. Dr. Finesurrey worked with 14 students on a research project studying S2 students' social emotional learning, including reactions to the pandemic and faculty turnover. Dr. Sam and the students talk about the process, what they found, and how the school modified policies in response to the study's findings.

      The post Middle schoolers as scholars: Critical participatory action research first appeared on Ethical Schools.

      26 min
    • Equity by design: residency-focused teacher education

      We speak with Dr. Diana Turk, Chair of the Department of Teaching and Learning and Director of Teacher Education at NYU. Students in NYU’s unique teacher residency program work full-time in classrooms, for which they are paid, making it possible for students without a lot of money to attend. By design, the program attracts BIPOC students. Students receive support from NYU faculty, both on location in their schools and online. They attend classes in the evenings, virtually. The program is uncompromisingly justice- and equity-centered.

      Overview

      00:00-00:34 Intros

      00:34-02:28 Educating all students as a subversive activity?

      02:28-10:12 What makes NYU Teacher Residency different among teacher ed programs

      10:12-12:16 Infusing the curriculum with justice and equity

      12:16-15:48 Input from school communities

      15:48-17:46 Why teacher demographics are important 

      17:46-19:50 Recruiting a diverse teaching force

      19:50-26:35 Outreach to prospective students

      26:35-27:49 Demographic composition of residents

      27:49-32:42 Achieving this demographic mix

      32:42-35:22 Choosing school locations

      35:22-36:44 Teacher mentors

      36:44-40:46 Structuring the course load

      40:46-43:50 Synchronous virtual classes

      43:50-45:23 Graduation rate

      45:23-49:21 Danielson and Feet Frameworks

      49:21-51:25 AACTE award for Best Practices in Multicultural Education and Diversity

      51:25-56:39 School locations

      54:06-56:39 Integrating special education into all curriculum modules

      56:39- Outro

      Transcript

      Click here to see the full transcription of this episode. 

      References

      • Click here to see an overview of the NYU Teacher Residency’s 24-25 cohort
      • Click here to read the article “When Equity and Justice Are Front and Center: Building a Teacher Residency That Walks the Walk on Antiracism, Equity, and Justice”
      • Click here to see an overview of the NYU Teacher Residency that Dr. Diana and her colleagues wrote for the AACTE Best Practice in Diversity and Multicultural Education Award (2024)
      • Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

        Photo facebook.com/NYUSteinhardt/

        1 hr 1 min
      • Supporting Black and Indigenous educators: Creatively developing community in Washington state

        We speak with Danielle Bryant, Director of Equity at Capital Region Educational Service District 113. Ms Bryant helps to break down isolation of Black educators and supports Indigenous educators and schools on reservations. A District program facilitates paraeducators becoming certified teachers. 

        Overview

        00:00-00:30 Intros

        00:30-01:43 Educational Service District

        01:43-02:57 Areas served in Washington State—urban and rural

        02:57-03:42 racial and ethnic composition of students and teachers

        03:42-07:16 Recruitment and retention of teachers of color

        07:16-09:31 Issues that Black teachers in particular face

        09:31-11:31 Support for Black, Indigenous, & other teachers of color

        11:31-14:38 Indigenous teachers and Indigenous schools

        14:38-15:27 Reservations and Indigenous Nations served

        15:27-18:39 Engaging in depth with Native communities

        18:39-21:10 Program to help paraeducators become teachers

        21:10- Outro

        Transcript

        Click here to see the full transcription of this episode. 

        References

        Capital Region ESD 113 website

        Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

        Photo esd113.org

        24 min
      • Going deep: Student-directed learning in Performance Standards Consortium schools

        We speak with Adam Grumbach, social studies program coordinator of the New York Performance Standards Consortium, and Naseem Haamid, a law student who attended Fannie Lou Hamer High School. We discuss inquiry based learning, Performance Based Assessment Tests, Habits of Mind, and self-directed, interdisciplinary portfolios, as alternatives to standardized-test driven curricula.

        Overview

        00:00-00:54 Intros

        00:54-02:04 NYS Performance Standards Consortium

        02:04-03:54 Potential effect on Consortium of elimination of Regents exams as graduation requirement

        03:54-05:09 Inquiry- and literacy-based education

        05:09-06:27 Creation of curricula

        06:27-07:39 Students’ input into what they focus on

        07:39-10:54 Naseem’s transition from a test-oriented school to Fannie Lou Hamer HS (FLH HS)

        10:54-10:39 The most valuable things about FLH HS for Naseem

        10:39-14:31 Transition from FLH HS to more traditional college and law school classes

        14:31-17:21 Performance based assessment tests (PBATs) and other assessments

        17:21-19:26 Rubrics

        19:26-20:09 Grading of PBATs

        20:09-24:45 Portfolios

        24:45-28:25 College and career planning

        28:25-32:56 Selecting and supporting teachers

        32:56-35:35 Lessons for teachers elsewhere from the Consortium

        35:35:36:31 “This is what education should be like”

        36:31-38:15 Distinctive way Consortium approaches introduction to post-secondary careers

        38:15- Outro

        Transcript

        Click here to see the full transcription of this episode. 

        References

        • New York Performance Standards Consortium website
        • Fannie Lou Hamer Freedom High School website
        • Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

          40 min
        • Rebuilding the Black teacher pipeline: Advancing justice and academic outcomes

          Ansharaye Hines and Mimi McKee of the Center for Black Educator Development discuss how the presence of highly qualified Black teachers supports students’ educational success. The Center advocates for educational equity and provides multiple teaching pathways to encourage and support Black high school and university students to become teachers.

          Overview

          00:00-00:43 Intros
          00:43-03:53 The Center for Black Educator Development
          03:53-06:53 Education as a justice issue
          06:53-12:19 Quality education as a Constitutional right
          12:19-14:10 Roles and goals for Black educators in classrooms
          14:10-17:40 How Black educators can thrive and hopefully make change
          17:40-23:15 Teaching pathways
          23:15-27:10 Freedom School Literacy Academy
          27:10-29:44 Center plans for the future
          29:44-31:09 We Need Black Teachers campaign
          31:09- Outro

          Transcript

          Click here to see the full transcription of this episode. 

          References

          Center for Black Education Development website

          Photo x.com/CenterBlackEd

          Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

          33 min
        • High stakes: Teaching to the tests in K-12

          We continue our conversation with Harry Feder of FairTest. This time, we discuss high stakes tests in K-12 schools. Harry explains how tests and the prep for them came to dominate education and the consequences for students, teachers, and schools of high or low scores. He also describes how the same companies dominate textbooks and testing, and suggests some alternatives to high-stakes tests.

          Overview

          00:00-00:50 Intros

          00:50-06:35 How testing became such a huge part of the K-12 experience

          06:35-09:31 Amount of testing autonomy of districts and schools

          09:31-14:23 Consequences and benefits of test scores

          14:23-16:32 Impact on teaching as a profession

          16:32-19:51 Test score use for middle and high school admissions

          19:51-23:42 Relationship between commercial testing companies and textbook companies

          23:42-26:36 PISA—Program for International Student Assessment

          26:36-30:01 Fairtest’s proposals for alternatives to current testing system

          29:45- Outro

          References

          • Click here to listen to Part 1 of our conversation with Harry Feder 
          • Fairtest website
          • Transcript

            Click here to see the full transcription of this episode. 

            Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

            38 min
          • SATs and the illusion of fairness

            We speak with Harry Feder of FairTest, an organization that advocates for fair and open testing, about the reinstitution of standardized test requirements at some “Ivy Plus” colleges, and why it matters. We discuss how testing choices affect inclusion and exclusion in admissions and what most non-“Ivy Plus” schools do. In a follow-up interview with Harry Feder, we will discuss standardized tests in K-12 schools.

            Overview

            00:00-00:46 Intros
            00:46-05:06 History of college admissions tests
            05:06-08:33 What the SAT purports to test and what it tests
            08:33-10:33 The SAT, admissions, and math
            10:33-12:52 Standardized tests and reading
            12:52-18:41 When colleges moved toward test-optional and test free
            18:41-24:40 Colleges reinstituting test requirements
            24:40-30:52 Admissions policies and a more democratic society
            30:52-34:50 The issue of grade inflation
            34:34- Outro

            Transcript

            Click here to see the full transcription of this episode. 

            References

            • Mother Jones’ article “Is Florida’s SAT Replacement Exam A) Christian Nationalism or B) Woke Propaganda?”
            • Fairtest website
            • Click here to listen to the second part of our interview with Harry Feder
            • Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

              45 min

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