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We speak with Derek Black, Constitutional law professor at the University of South Carolina School of Law, about the impact of Trump administration’s policies on students’ civil rights. Department of Education offices meant to ensure students are not subject to discrimination have been decimated. The Department of Justice has switched from protecting minority students' rights to focusing on so-called “discrimination" against whites and attacking transgender students. Professor Black also says the need for "circuit breakers" on executive power transcends this administration.
Overview
00:00-00:52 Intros
00:52:02:21 Threats to students’ protection from discrimination
02:21-03:53 Status of complaints to Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights (OCR)
03:53-05:30 Importance of access to OCR without an attorney
05:30-10:09 OCR procedures and remedies
10:09-13:55 Role Department of Justice is supposed to have in protecting students against discrimination; Trump Administration priorities
13:55-17:01 How the Administration’s approach is schizophrenic
17:01-23:10 Ethical quandaries facing district administrators
23:10-24:43 Supplementing not supplanting: What happens when the Department of Education is no longer monitoring
24:43-27:21 The uncertainty factor—who gets focused on
27:21-30:36 State Departments of Education: How they fit in
30:36-34:11 Theatrics at US Department of Education
34:11-38:00 Problems before the Trump Administration and what would be important afterwards
38:00-40:11 Some specifics of “circuit breakers” that could reduce executive power
40:11- Outro
Transcript
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References
Our first interview with Derek Black happened in 2021. Click here to listen to "The attack on public education: Will public schools survive?"
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We share brief presentations from the first of the “Saturday Salons” that Ethical Schools is sponsoring with three international partners. Juan Mora of the Center for Artistry and Scholarship and Ramji Raghavan of Agastya International Foundation talk about how educators and communities can cultivate awareness of and relationship to the natural world.
Learn more and register for the next salon at globalconversations.net
Overview
00:00-01:36 Introductions by Amy and Jon
01:36-02:45 Introduction of Juan Mora by David Penberg
02:45-12:36 Juan Mora:
Separation of people from nature;
What would you do if you were starting a school from zero?
Experience in Córdoba, Argentina of basing a school on nature;
Integrating the curriculum into nature-centered activities;
And kids never asked, “Why are we doing this (activity)?”
We’ve left nature out of our learning environments;
A shift in learning that will help us understand how to teach and what to teach and where to teach differently.
12:36-14:09 David Penberg:
Reciprocity, centrality of relationships, “nature deficit disorder”;
Introduction of Ramji Raghavan
14:09-23:59 Ramji Raghavan:
Transforming a barren wasteland of 170 acres into an ecological preserve;
Nature-centric learning;
Eco-walk;
Constructing a giant figure showing herbs benefiting different parts of the body;
Constructing a termite hill;
Bandhu—everything is connected;
Distributing learnings throughout India.
23:59-25:15 David Penberg:
How educators can create conditions for people to think the kinds of worlds that they would like to inhabit and live in, whether it’s a school, a community;
Creative learning and what that looks like, creative being;
Being intentional, observant and continuously in relationship to the things around you.
25:15- Outro
Transcript
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We speak with Dr. Mia Hood, author of Pop Culture Literacies: Teaching Interpretation, Response, and Composition in a Digital World, about analyzing popular music and films along with more traditional literature. Dr. Hood talks about helping students to think about their ethical perspectives while engaging with "entertainment," and the importance of educators' resisting the temptation to impose their own “expert” interpretations in favor of modeling the process. We also discuss how teachers can resist imposing their views while teaching for democracy and social justice.
Overview
00:00-00:48 Intros
00:48-02:48 Pop culture literacies
02:42-04:22 Schools’ ethical duty to help young people navigate the world as it is
04:22-06:23 Helping students to thin about their ethical perspectives
06:23-11:58 Students’ responses; Intersection of pop culture literacies and schools
11:58-15:01 Critical literacy and text analysis
15:01-19:09 Power operating within and through texts
19:09-21:56 Piercing the veil of “entertainment” to encourage critical analysis
21:56-26:25 Impact of AI
26:25-30:48 Kathy Hytten’s article, “Ethics in teaching for democracy and social justice”
30:48-33:55 Parental pushback?
33:55- Outro
Transcript
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Resources
Book Pop Culture Literacy: Teaching Interpretation, Response, and Composition in a Digital World by Mia Hood
Soundtrack by Poddington Bear
LEARN MORE AND REGISTER AT GLOBALCONVERSATIONS.NET
Along with our partner organizations – Agastya International Foundation, Center for Artistry and Scholarship, and Thinking With You – Ethical Schools is bringing together educators, youth workers, and students from around the world to discuss ethical, democratic, and regenerative education strategies. Hear exciting presentations from visionary practitioners and participate in group discussions.
Come with your co-workers! Attend with a cohort from your school or out-of-school program to maximize the benefits for your organization and students.
Series 1: Ethics and the Natural World
Pay what you wish.
LEARN MORE AND REGISTER AT GLOBALCONVERSATIONS.NET
We speak with Dr. Susan Jean Mayer about her recent book, "Practicing Pragmatism Through Progressive Pedagogies: A Philosophical Lens for Grounding Classroom Teaching and Research." Dr. Mayer defines pragmatism in today's world and discusses the importance of critical exploration, democratic construction of knowledge, and openness to diversity of perspectives in the classroom. As teachers and learners, we can construct a shared set of values based on our experiential realities and come to understand these realities in coherent terms.
Overview
00:00-00:36 Intros
00:36-02:55 How to define pragmatism in today’s world
02:55-05:34 How to define final truth
05:34-06:53 How to define an ethical classroom
06:53-11:29 Ethical and democratic classrooms: the same or how they may differ
11:29-15:03 Knowledge, experience, and education
15:03-17:55 Critical exploration in the classroom
17:55-21:05 Classroom example of critical exploration
21:05-23:49 How a critical exploration teacher can intervene when students are wrong
23:49-27:25 When inviting different perspectives and belief systems doesn’t come naturally to students
27:25-28:56 Schools aren’t encouraging students to talk to one another; have succumbed to discourse of test scores
28:56-33:20 How teachers can become more comfortable with perspectives they may disagree with
33:20-37:11 How pragmatic teachers can deal with a school system structured to eliminate or minimize cultural diversity
37:11-40:47 Balancing ties to local communities with supporting students who want to break from the consensus of the community
40:47-47:19 How teachers can help create a system of education based on pragmatism
47:19- Outro
Transcript
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References
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We speak with Deborah Meier and Jane Andrias, pioneers in the democratic small-school movement. Debbie founded the Central Park East Schools. Jane Andrias was an art teacher and principal at Central Park East I. Debbie and Jane discuss these ground-breaking schools, their ethical foundations, the “habits of mind” they worked to instill, and the challenges they faced.
*This is Part Two of a two part episode. Go back one episode or click here to listen to the first part.
Overview
00:00-00:41 Intros
00:41-07:30 Parent involvement
07:30-12:05 What happened to Mission Hill?
12:05-23:04 Survival of innovative, democratic schools;
What do we have education for? Education and democracy
23:04-24:45 Justice and fairness
24:45-26:37 Community service; connections to the adult world
26:37-29:37 Choices schools make based on what they value
29:37-36:46 Documentary about impact of CPESS on graduates’ lives
36:36-38:39 Human capital
38:39-40:57 Need funding for the documentary
40:57-42:41 Films and TV about the schools
42:41- Outro
Transcript
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References
Soundtrack by Poddington Bear
We speak with Deborah Meier and Jane Andrias, pioneers in the democratic small-school movement. Debbie founded the Central Park East Schools. Jane Andrias was an art teacher and principal at Central Park East I. Debbie and Jane discuss these ground-breaking schools, their ethical foundations, the “habits of mind” they worked to instill, and the challenges they faced.
*This is Part One of a two part episode.
Overview
00:00-00:43 Intros
00:43-01:52 What would a school fully focused on preparing students for a democraticsociety look like?
01:52-03:08 Impacts of curriculum and school environment
03:08-05:40 Students’ voice in what they are learning
05:40-11:01 Democratic, progressive, ethical schools: are they synonymous?
11:01-18:32 Examples of ethical dilemmas and decisions
18:32-22:07 Negative effects of tracking and what the alternatives look like
22:07-24:19 Building long-term trust
24:19-26:05 Including all school staff members in decision-making and obstacles
26:05-29:57 Including parents and students
Transcript
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References
Soundtrack by Poddington Bear
Robbie Torney, director of AI Programs at Common Sense Media, analyzes teachers' use of AI. We focus on AI teaching assistants, their uses and abuses, and how teachers' judgment and skills remain central. We discuss the need for school- and district-wide education and policies on using AI in teaching and learning.
Overview
Intros
Common Sense media and its AI work
Evaluation principles for AI risk
What teachers use AI for
What happens with users’ data
AI teacher assistants, risks, and advantages
AI and cultural sensitivity
AI as assistive or adaptive technology
Recognition of AI as enhancements not replacements?
Special risks of AI teacher assistants for IEPs and behavior plans
How teachers can protect against “invisible influence” risks
AI and complex historical events such as California missions or slavery
“Tools,” “functions,” and prompts
Four specific steps teachers should take when using teacher assistants
Purchasing AI: Consultation and training
Role of school boards, administrators, and state departments of education
Legislation to protect students
Importance of discussion of values and ethical questions
Outro
Transcript
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References
Common Sense Media AI Initiatives: click here
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We speak with Tom Roderick, founding executive director of the Morningside Center for Teaching Social Responsibility; Jan Zuckerman, Co-founder of Sunnyside Environmental School in Portland, Oregon; and Graham Klag, an alumnus of Sunnyside Environmental School. We discuss Tom's book, Teach for Climate Justice: A Vision for Transforming Education. Tom explains that climate chaos and social justice are inextricably linked, and proposes a program for addressing both. He centers the concept of the beloved community.
Overview
00:00-01:07 Intros
01:07-03:57 Why “Climate Justice?’
03:57-06:00 Connection between climate change and social justice
06:00-07:34 The book’s primary audience
07:34-09:30 Teaching for climate justice and SEL
09:30-11:51 Sunnyside Environmental School
11:51-15:37 Meshing hands-on learning with Oregon’s state testing requirements
15:37-16:43 Storyline
16:43-19:24 Creating a “beloved community”
19:24-21:23 Impact on Graham Klag’s life as an alum
21:23-30:10 Wolf education project with ranchers’ families
30:10-34:37 Encouraging students to be hopeful
34:37-37:22 Landless Rural Workers Movement (MST, Brazil) and “contentious co-governance)
37:22-40:00 Teach for Climate Justice Project
40:00-41:27 Civil resistance
41:27-43:13 SEL in Phoenix Talent schools in Eastern Oregon
43:13- Outro
Transcript
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References
Soundtrack by Poddington Bear
Photo teachforclimatejustice.org
We speak with Dr. Cynthia Ballenger about her recent book, “Teaching is Inquiry: Observation and Reflection as the Heart of Practice,” in which she explores the role of ethnography in inquiry-based teaching and learning, i.e., cultural practices in terms of speaking, storytelling, and conveying information. Teachers can discern a lot more about students if they listen to them in the context of their ethnic/ cultural styles of communicating. Dr. Ballenger also addresses the children she calls “puzzling.” Each of them has something to offer, she says, even those who seemingly have social-emotional challenges.
Overview
00:00-00:58 Intros
00:58-01:45 “Teaching Is Inquiry”
01:45-08:56 Ethnography of education
08:56-11:12 “Every child has something to offer the class.”
11:12-20:45 The “puzzling child”: more stories
20:45-24:10 Cultural and individual differences
24:10-27:43 Obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD)
27:43-30:17 “Stopping time.”
30:17-31:17 Importance of stories
31:17-34:41 Strengthening systemic support; ethical implications
34:41-36:45 Testing culture as anti-democratic and unethical
36:45-38:13 More reflections on OCD
38:13-38:37 Jerome Bruner on negotiating meaning
38:37- Outro
Transcript
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References
Book “Teaching is Inquiry” by Dr. Cynthia Ballenger
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