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  • Surveillance in school: Invasive technology, junk science

    We speak with Albert Fox Cahn and Sarah Roth of the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project, or S.T.O.P., about the increasing use of surveillance technology to track students. Claiming their technology can predict who will be a threat to themselves or the school, companies market programs that report to school officials on students’ keystrokes, words, and behaviors. School officials can provide it to law enforcement or parents.

    Overview

    00:00-00:41 Intros
    00:41-02:27 Who is surveilling K-12 students and why?
    02:27-05:49 Who is collecting the data, where it goes, how it impacts students?
    05:49-08:03 Implications of students self-identifying as queer in Florida and elsewhere
    08:03-10:08 How are risk factors determined?
    10:08-12:37 Surveillance technology and School Resource Officers (SROs)
    12:37-14:18 Are parents aware of their students’ surveillance?
    14:18-16:28 Legal challenges
    16:28-18:26 Using FOIA/FOIL to get information about surveillance
    18:26-21:16 Facial recognition
    21:16-21:40 Gaggle as enhancement to SRO in Minneapolis
    21:40-23:51 Biases
    23:51-24:45 Federal promotion of surveillance
    24:45-27:39 Adoption of technology in classrooms and for measuring “productivity”
    27:39- Outro

    Transcript

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    References

    Surveillance Technology Oversight Project S.T.O.P. website

    Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

    31 min
  • Inquiry and interpretation: Learning US history from primary sources

    We speak with Lee Schere, Director of Teaching and Learning at the Office of K-16 Initiatives of CUNY about the Debating U.S. History Program, an inquiry-based curriculum and teacher learning program. Students learn that history is not one set of agreed-upon events and interpretations. Though designed for NYC schools, the curriculum is available free to teachers everywhere.

    Overview

    00:00-00:37 Intros
    00:37-02:42 Debating U.S. History
    02:42-04:58 Why CUNY developed a high school course
    04:58-06:32 Why this is a more ethical way to teach history
    06:32-08:23 Examples of inquiry-based learning
    08:23-12:28 Differentiation in working with documents for students at different reading levels
    12:28-14:23 Key skills and strategies
    14:23-17:41 Historiography and uncertainty
    17:41-19:20 Students grappling with ethical questions
    19:20-20:53 Program logistics
    20:53-23:03 Collaboration with ELA teachers
    23:03-24:00 How schools become part of the program
    24:00-26:14 Regents exam
    26:14- Outro

    Transcript

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    References

    CUNY K16 Initiatives: Debating US History (website)

    30 min
  • School district battles: Protecting education from bans

    We speak with Mike Gottesman, founder of New Jersey Public Education Coalition (NJPEC), a grassroots organization that educates and activates NJ citizens in school districts to protect the integrity of schools from conservative extremist groups. NJPEC organizes on-the-ground support for community members and provides information for school board candidates. In its first year, the Coalition has grown to 1500 members along with subject matter experts and partner organizations.

    Overview

    00:00-00:42 Intros

    00:42-02:19 Reasons for starting NJ Public Education Coalition

    02:19-03:35 Hot button issues

    03:35-05:11 Sex ed curriculum issues

    05:11-06:19 10 committees/tactics

    06:19-09:45 Observing districts, engaging parents

    09:45-11:17 Educational road shows

    11:17-12:47 Engaging seniors

    12:47-13:20 Title IX

    13:20-16:16 Examples of engagement in districts: Millstone, Hamilton

    16:16-18:24 School board meetings

    18:24-19:28 Working with (but not endorsing) school board candidates

    19:28-24:22 Contacting legislators, drafting legislation

    24:22-26:24 Increasing voter turnout

    26:24-27:46 How to contact NJPEC

    27:46-28:41 Contacts with groups in other states

    28:41- Outro

    Transcript

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    References

    • New Jersey Public Education Coalition’s (NJPEC) website
    • NJPEC’s Facebook Group
    • Photo by NJPEC

      Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

      31 min
    • Critiquing the “science of reading” movement: Teaching reading is “both/and”

      Lynne Einbender and Susie Rolander, reading and literacy faculty at Bank Street College, talk about supporting children’s learning to read and the components of a full-fledged language arts program. One size does not fit all: children with different strengths and experiences have a spectrum of needs.

      Overview

      00:00-00:43 Intros

      00:43-03:01 What do its advocates mean by the “science of reading?’

      03:01-06:44 Effective ways to support children in learning to read and acquiring literacy

      06:44-10:30 Balanced literacy

      10:30-13:39 Learning to read and learning to write

      13:39-15:21 Effects, if any, on “science of reading” laws on student achievement

      15:21-20:13 Best ways to help more children become proficient readers

      20:13-22:31 Lucy Calkins’s Reading Workshop and Fountas & Pinnell Leveled Literacy Intervention system

      22:31-23:41 Recommended resource—“Shifting the Balance” by Jan Burkins and Kari Yates

      23:41-27:35 Children with special needs

      27:35-30:28 Equity

      30:28- Outro

       

      Transcript

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      References

      • Article “The Science of Reading and the Media: How Do Current Reporting Patterns Cause Damage?”
      • Article “The Science of Reading and the Media: Is Reporting Biased?”

      • Article “The Science of Reading and the Media: Does the Media Draw on High-Quality Reading Research?”
      • Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

        35 min
      • “Parents’ rights” campaigns: Targeting school books and curricula

        Dr. Melissa Deckman, CEO of PRRI, Public Religion Research Institute, analyzes current “parents’ rights” campaigns and their precedents. At a time of demographic change, conservative Christians seek to ban books and curricula that conflict with their educational agenda. Dr. Deckman discusses the use of social media and the importance of where people get their news in shaping these battles. PRRI’s polling data show what parents and the public think about school issues.

        Overview

        00:00-00:58 Intros

        00:58-07:00 Demands of “parental rights” activists

        07:00-09:32 Historical “parental rights” campaigns

        09:32-11:00 Relationship of campaigns to weakening funding or support for public schools

        11:00-12:49 Parents’ opinions about these campaigns

        12:49-14:30 Role of Fox News and social media in campaigns

        14:30-15:38 Social media use by activists opposing these campaigns

        15:38-22:42 Relationship of these campaigns to race and racism

        22:42-23:31 Impact of demographic change

        23:31-25:22 Are these “winning issues:” for candidates?

        25:22-25:56 Why issues will continue

        25:56-27:43 PRRI’s work and how people can access it

        27:43- Outro

        Transcript

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        References

        Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) website

        Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

        32 min
      • Towards the school you want to see: Plan, Act, Reflect, Repeat

        We speak with Justin Cohen, whose work focuses on the intersections of education, race, privilege, and public policy. Cohen’s recent book is Change Agents: Transforming Schools From the Ground Up. He looks at ways a faculty can systematically improve its school. Knowing the community and having honest and difficult conversations about race are critical.

        Overview

        00:00-00:33 Intros

        00:33-01:44 What Change Agents is about

        01:44-03:55 Results-Oriented Cycles of Inquiry (ROCI)

        03:55-04:31 School Organizing as a form of community organizing

        04:31-10:25 Conversations about race

        10:25-13:54 A fishbowl exercise about race that went wrong and what happened after that

        13:54-16:46 Achieving early wins

        16:46-19:39 What accountability can mean

        19:39-23:06 Strategies for improving school-parent communication

        23:06-24:05 Working on listening as a school

        24:05-26:33 Improving existing schools vs. starting new ones

        26:33-29:46 Urgent policy changes

        29:46-31:11 Relevant Ethical Schools episodes

        31:11- Outro

        Transcript

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        References

        Book Change Agents: Transforming Schools From the Ground Up by Justin Cohen 

        Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

        36 min
      • Challenging credentialism: An alternative vision of education

        We speak with Arlene Goldbard, writer, visual artist, speaker, social activist and consultant,  whose most recent book is “In the Camp of Angels of Freedom: What does it mean to be educated?” An autodidact from a working-class background,  Arlene challenges “the certainty that academic qualifications are the best measure of ability.” She interweaves the stories and portraits of her “angels,” her personal story, and a critique of standard narratives of education. We talk with her in particular about two of her “angels,” Paulo Freire and Paul Goodman.

        Overview

        00:00-00:38 Intros

        00:38-02:41 What “In the Camp of Angels of Freedom: What It Means to be Educated” is about

        02:41: 03:55 Definition of auto-didact

        03:55-05:39 Project-based education/Action civics/“What Would YOU Do?”

        05:39-07:12 Removing bachelor’s degree requirement from State jobs

        07:12-09:03 Advice to high school students about options

        09:03-10:34 When is a liberal arts education valuable beyond credentials?

        10:34-20:42 Alternative ways to expand horizons beyond/in addition to college

        20:42-25:28 K-12 education

        25:28-27:31 Paulo Freire

        27:31-31:18 Paul Goodman

        31:18-32:50 Cultural citizenship

        32:50- Outro

        Transcript

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        References

        • Arlene Goldbard’s website
        • Book “In the Camp of Angels of Freedom: What Does It Mean to Be Educated?” by Arlene Goldbard 
        • Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

          Visual artwork by Arlene Goldbard “We Burn” (2019)

          37 min
        • Restorative Justice: Cultivating cohesive communities

          We speak with Sarah Eblen and Reginald Berry Jr., former middle school teachers and now district coordinators for the restorative justice program in the Kansas City Public Schools. Eighty percent of RJ is community building and 20% conflict resolution. When there is a conflict, the RJ process ensures that everyone — students, teachers, and parents — feels heard. Since the program started, classroom behavior problems have decreased, students’ out-of-school relationships have improved, and teacher satisfaction with the disciplinary process has increased.

          Overview

          00:00-00:41 Intros
          00:41-01:04 Journey from teaching to overseeing systemwide restorative justice (RJ) program
          01:04-04:07 Program logistics
          04:07-05:17 Training
          05:17-09:00 Major tools of RJ
          09:00-10:28 Where does the community building occur?
          10:28-12:57 Impact on student behavior
          12:57-14:16 Discipline disparities
          14:16-16:36 Effects on teachers’ practice
          16:36-19:50 Revised Code of Conduct
          19:50-21:04 Coping with teacher or principal turnover
          21:04-22:43 Impact beyond the school
          22:43-27:52 When students get conflicting messages from home and school
          27:52-29:45 Funding
          29:45-32:10 Where to get more information n RJ training
          32:10- Outro

          Transcript

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          References

          • National Association of Community and Restorative Justice website
          • Center for Conflict Resolution website
          • Soundtrack by Podington Bear

            36 min
          • Intersections: Supporting Black LGBTQIA+ students

            We speak with Dr. David Johns, executive director of the National Black Justice Coalition, NBJC, about the challenges faced by Black LGBTQIA+ students. Most young people at this intersection live in the South among other Black people, not in secular, gay-friendly cities like San Francisco or Hollywood.These young people face economic and cultural barriers to accessing mental health services, Dr. Johns explains how, rather than telling these students what sorts of support they need, adults should ask them. 

            Overview

            00:00-00:44 Intros

            00:44-02:50 Definition of Same Gender Loving (SGL)

            02:50-07:58 Black young people’s mental health

            07:58-13:28 Suicide rates, trauma, white supremacy 

            13:28- 19:41 Cultures of mental health and self-care, religious institutions, access to mental health resources

            19:41-27:38 LGBTQIA+  youth, Black traditions and religious institutions, supports and challenges

            27:38-36:00 Legal protections against bullying and harassment

            36:00-39:34 Doing the work that needs to be done in schools

            39:34-43:15 National Black Justice Coalition, its work, and policy agenda

            43:15-45:27 The Equality Act

            45:27-48:13 Where NBJC works, partnerships

            48:13-53:12 What school administrators and teachers can do to better support Black LGBTQIA+ students

            53:12-55:17 Graduate schools of education

            55:17-57:56 LGBTQIA+ and SGL  folks who are older

            57:56-59:19 Immigrant students

            59:19- Outro

            Transcript

            Click here to see the full transcription of this episode. 

            References

            • National Black Justice Coalition (NBJC) website
            • Black Alliance for Just Immigration (BAJI) website
            • Soundtrack by Poddington Bear

              1 hr 4 min
            • ChatGTP: Cheating optimizer or force for teaching transformation?

              We speak with Lev Moscow and Richard Miller, veteran high school teachers, about the panic around the release of chatGPT. The AI tool produces respectable essays that students can pass off as their own. The best teachers already focus on process, and chatGPT could force all schools to change their approach.

              Overview

              00:00-00:34 Intros

              00:34-01:38 First reaction to ChatGBT?

              01:38-03:37 Influence on teaching

              03:37-05:54 Challenges and opportunities

              05:54-14:47 Examples of reimagining education to engage students and avoid  pitfalls of chatbots

              14:47-17:13 Structuring essays, research skills, JSTOR

              17:13-19:30 Kids getting over

              19:30-21-23 Some benefits of chatbots for teaching essay writing

              21:23-22:58 Cheating before chatbots

              22:58-25:50 Impact of technology; Neil Postman, David Graeber , Keynes

              25:50-27:06 Financial impacts of  chatbots on teachers’ jobs

              27:06-28:48 De-skilling,, non-fungible ideas

              28:48-31:15 Ways teachers could use chatbots to assist students with essays

              31:15-35:31 Role of homework, quizzes, classroom discussion

              35:31-36:53 How language classes could use language in community settings

              36:53-49:31 Mechanics of detecting cheating with chatbots or otherwise

              49:31-44:28 Additional examples of engaging students

              44:28- Outro

              Transcript

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              References

              • Previous interviews with Lev and Richard:
                • “Why teach History? Knowing ‘why’ shapes ‘how” with Richard Miller
                • “Teaching differently about being ‘modern’: Questioning Western mindsets” with Lev Moscow and Dr. Walter Mignolo
                • “Teaching economics as political and ethical choices” with Lev Moscow
                • “Lev Moscow offers advice for secondary school teachers”
                • Lev Moscow also hosts a podcast. Click here to know more about A Correction Podcast.
                • Soundtrack by Poddington Bear. Photo by DeepMind on Unsplash. 

                  51 min

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