This conversation really began in December of last year when Brian posed a question to Evan McMullin on Twitter. Now Brian and Evan sit down to continue it. Evan McMullin, who ran as an independent in the 2016 presidential election and secured 21% of the vote in Utah, shares why he ran for president, about how his time as a CIA operative and his years of mission work inform his political views, and lays out what Americans can really do under this new administration. McMullin actively speaks out against President Trump and he recently co-founded Stand Up Republic, an organization aimed at preserving traditional American principles.

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