Everybody in the Pool

This week on Everybody in the Pool, we couldn’t let Earth Month pass without one last conversation about consumer action and devices—and this week, we’re re-airing a conversation from someone who’s an expert at designing things that people want to buy. Matt Rogers is the co-founder of Mill, a kitchen appliance that turns food waste into dried, odorless grounds that consumers drop in the mail and that get upcycled into chicken feed. And Matt just happens to have also co-founded a little company called Nest, which has been a powerful driver of energy efficiency. He and Molly talk about how food waste is the unexpected giant emitter that requires major behavior change, and sometimes, a sexy gadget is just what you need to make that change.

• Mill
• Mill vs Lomi via Architectural Digest
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This week on Everybody in the Pool, we’re still diving into the choices that you can make as a consumer, in our Earth Month of personal climate action! And this one is a biggie: food. We love a climate entrepreneur with a vision to solve a big problem who goes looking around and lands on one you might not have thought of. Savor founder Kathleen Alexander did her research and landed on fats and oils, which are detrimental in all kinds of ways, from the way we practice agriculture to deforestation to energy use. Her company uses molecular construction to create replacement versions of fats and oils, starting with a butter that’s good enough to be in the chocolates of a Michelin-star restaurant. Taste test within!

• savor.it
• Kathleen Alexander
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This week on Everybody in the Pool, it’s Earth Month of personal climate action! This week we’re tackling an all-too-common question: I want to shop more sustainably, but I’m not sure what to buy (or what not to buy)! Commons is an app and website that helps you easily find sustainable alternatives to everyday items — mostly clothes and textiles now, with more to come. Founder Sanchali Pal is a self-described data nerd who’s been tracking her own carbon footprint, and the impact of her personal choices, for over a decade now. And here’s the thing: we keep getting told that we’re powerless and companies need to make meaningful change, but the truth is, they’re listening to us, and the votes of our dollars matter now more than ever.

• Commons
• Sanchali Pal
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This week on Everybody in the Pool, we’re continuing our Earth Month of personal climate action! If your house is anything like mine, it’s a leaky sieve of escaping heat or cool air, your HVAC filters are disgusting, and there are sneaky fluorescent bulbs hanging around the house. It’s costing you money, and it’s wasting energy, meaning it’s contributing to planet-warming greenhouse gas emissions in a way that’s probably fairly easy to avoid. This week, I’m talking to Evite founder Selina Tobaccowala about the company she has since founded, HomeBoost, and how it’s helping homeowners make their homes more comfortable, energy efficient, and lower utility bills as a result.

• HomeBoost
• Selina Tobaccowala
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This week on Everybody in the Pool, we’re kicking off Earth Month with a month of action! Our choices matter, and one of the choices I’ve been avoiding is how to replace coffee — which contributes to deforestation, is energy intensive to produce, and isn’t good news for the coffee farmers, either. This week, we’re talking with Andy Kleitsch, founder of Atomo Coffee, about their sustainable coffee blends, the road to adoption and the compromises it sometimes entails, and some surprising trivia related to camels and date pits.

• Atomo Coffee
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This week on Everybody in the Pool, bummer news: your bank deposits could be funding the climate crisis? But we’d never give you bummer news without a solution! This week, Molly Wood speaks with Paul Moinester, founder of Topofinance, who reveals the shocking climate impact of conventional banking. Discover how just $10,000 in a major bank generates emissions equivalent to driving 10,000 miles yearly, and why moving your money to climate-friendly banks might be the easiest climate action you've never considered. Paul explains how corporations' banking emissions often exceed all their other emissions combined, and introduces innovative solutions that make greener banking both simple and profitable.

• Topo Finance
• Paul Moinester
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This week on Everybody in the Pool, Molly Wood talks with Brad Hartwig, co-founder and CEO of Arbor Energy. Brad shares his remarkable journey from SpaceX rocket engineer to climate tech entrepreneur, developing technology that transforms waste biomass into carbon-negative energy using rocket propulsion principles. Yep, you read that right. A guy who used to want to be an astronaut woke up one day and realized this planet was the place to put his energy. Find out how Arbor’s tech could replace fossil fuel plants while simultaneously removing carbon from the atmosphere.

• Brad's transition from aerospace engineering at SpaceX to climate tech after witnessing California wildfires firsthand
• How Arbor Energy's technology uses "oxy combustion" (inspired by rocket engines) to generate clean electricity while capturing carbon
• The system produces no emissions - only pure CO2 (for sequestration) and clean water
• Potential to replace up to 60 gigawatts of coal and natural gas plants in the US with carbon-negative power
• Uses only waste biomass from agriculture, forestry, and potentially municipal waste
• Economic benefits for wildfire prevention through monetizing brush clearing
• First commercial deployment targeted for 2027

• Arbor Energy
• Brad Hartwig
• Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson - Climate fiction book mentioned by Brad
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In this episode of Everybody in the Pool, host Molly Wood speaks with Mat Dos Santos, co-executive director of Our Children's Trust, about how his organization is using the legal system to fight climate change on behalf of youth plaintiffs — the kids who have the most to lose if we get this wrong. Learn how landmark victories in Montana and Hawaii are creating precedents that could reshape climate policy across America.

• Constitutional Climate Rights: Our Children's Trust secured a historic victory in Montana, establishing that the state constitution's "clean and healthful environment" provision protects young people's right to a livable climate future.
• Youth-Led Legal Action: Children and teens have standing to sue over climate policies because they face disproportionate, long-term impacts from climate change and have limited political voice.
• Government Accountability: These cases highlight how fossil fuel development requires government permission and subsidies, challenging the "market-driven" narrative.
• Recent Victories: The Montana Supreme Court ruling forces the state to consider climate impacts in permitting, while a Hawaii settlement requires complete transportation decarbonization by 2045.
• Juliana v. United States: Learn about the ongoing federal case arguing that the U.S. government has violated young people's constitutional rights by knowingly promoting a fossil fuel system despite understanding climate dangers.

• Our Children’s Trust
• Mat Dos Santos
• Held v. Montana trial videos
• Youth v. Gov documentary on Netflix
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This week on Everybody in the Pool, host Molly Wood talks with Eliot Brooks, founder and CEO of Cocoon Carbon, about an unexpected climate tech challenge: how decarbonizing steel production is disrupting concrete's path to net zero. Brooks explains how his startup transforms problematic steel slag from modern electric arc furnaces into valuable materials that reduce concrete's carbon footprint while cutting costs.

• Learn how steel's shift to cleaner production methods has unintentionally limited concrete's access to low-carbon materials
• Discover how Cocoon Carbon's modular technology transforms waste into valuable cement alternatives
• Understand why addressing interconnected industrial challenges creates powerful climate tech opportunities
• Find out how this solution makes decarbonization more affordable for both industries, representing 15% of global emissions

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This week on Everybody in the Pool, we’re exploring what might be the most overlooked tool in our climate toolkit: nature itself. Yes, we like to geek out about purely technological solutions like fusion or direct-air carbon capture or electric vehicles or consumer compost devices, but there's a whole world of climate solutions that nature has already perfected over millions of years. But how does the financial world think about these solutions? Siddarth Shrikanth is an investor at Just Climate, a division of the Al Gore-founded investment firm Generation Investment Management. He’s also the author of a book called The Case for Nature. We talk about the twin crises of nature and biodiversity loss plus climate change, and how their convergence is a threat and an opportunity of equal scale.

• Just Climate
• The Case for Nature book
• Siddarth Shrikanth
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