Show Notes - Episode 6 - February 2, 2020
When the Gracies and other Brazilians imported Jiu Jitsu to the U.S., a powerful piece of Portuguese slang arrived with them.
If you’re serious about training BJJ then you’re probably familiar with a disparaging term, a not-so-subtle insult, hurled at students who leave one team for a rival academy. The word: “Creonte.”
It is an attack on the departed student’s character, a jab at his honor. Calling someone a creonte implies that the defector is disloyal, a traitor.
In Episode 6 of Everyman BJJ’s video series, we explore the concept of creonte and how loyalty is a two-way street: How can BJJ instructors show loyalty to their students and vice-versa? Where do you draw the line as to what constitutes loyalty and what does not?
When should a student consider switching academies?
Has the perception of students who switched academies changed over the years, or is the creonte stigma as prevalent as ever?
Frank Forza, Noah Green and Jordan Wirth consider many different sides and angles surrounding the issue.
Trying to make sense of it all, Noah, a BJJ blue belt at the Renzo Gracie Academy in Manhattan, invokes and endorses the book “Tribe” by actor Sebastian Junger.
Once upon a time, 15-20 years ago, BJJ instructors could largely dictate the rules and terms with a “My-way-or-the-highway" attitude. That “I demand loyalty or I will not teach you” approach worked wonderfully back when there were relatively few academies in major cities. Today, however, the explosion of BJJ and rapid proliferation of BJJ black belts has changed the narrative. Students today often have a plethora of academies to choose from and we’ve seen a massive shift where many BJJ athletes cross-train at different gyms (even in their home city, not just when they travel).
What does all this cross-training mean for today’s competitive BJJ athlete? What are the advantages and potential disadvantages of jumping around to different schools?
How comfortable are you training with someone today, knowing you might be competing against them in the next few months or later this year?
How much videotape of an opponent should you study?
Jordan weighs in and Frank recounts what former UFC champion Randy Couture once told him about how he prepared for his cage fights (hint: Couture believed that if you studied your opponents too much, and too closely to a fight, this could happen____).
If you’re training with someone you might be competing against down the road, should you hold back?
Is it cool, is it ethical, to train regularly at two or three different academies in your area?
The Everyman BJJ team discuss how the lines can get blurred and there are many moving pieces to consider in these kinds of scenarios.
Join us as Frank, Noah and Jordan dive in for a candid 90-minute discussion on a topic that never gets old in the BJJ community, a topic that continues to be as controversial and provocative as ever, even 19 years after Frank first started training the so-called “Gentle Art.”
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Frank Curreri Forza is a 3x IBJJF Masters World Champion, two-time TEDx speaker, and longtime journalist/writer/editor who has worked for the Ultimate Fighting Championship, The Salt Lake Tribune, Las Vegas Review-Journal and appeared in other prominent media outlets. He is a Baltimor