Andrew, Tawny, and former producer Matt Apodaca discuss their experiences with Christmas trees before getting to this week's current events: a person who washes their beef and Phoebe Bridgers' statements about podcasting. This week's voicemails include questions about how to show that you're an ally, and whether or not it's problematic to own Black Art if you're white. Call in if you have a racism question at 323-389-RACE. 

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