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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! If you’re a regular listener here, you’ll know that we’ve been exploring the future of media and news on the pod, these last number of weeks. We’ve had a couple of fantastic panels. The first was Elly Alboim and Bill Fox, who we’re referring to around here as “The Interns.” The second, “The State of Canadian News and Journalism," just two weeks ago, was with Paul Wells, Joyce Napier and Andrew Coyne. So today, we’re completing the set.

We’ve gathered a third panel – Jesse Brown, Justin Ling and Michael Spitale – because I want to specifically explore the new media landscape … what it is, exactly … what it can do, what gaps it fills … and the power it wields that traditional media no longer does.

Jesse Brown is a well-known Canadian journalist, media personality, and new media entrepreneur. Among a long list of accomplishments, in 2013, he founded the “Canadaland podcast, grew it into a full-fledged media company and one of the most popular podcasts in the country.

Justin Ling is an award winning, freelance investigative journalist who specializes in privacy and security issues, foreign policy, politics, law, media and where all those things intersect. His Substack is “Bug-eyed and Shameless – dispatches from the fringes of the information war.”

I got to know Michael Spitale working for Premier Wynne in 2013. He became the youngest ever President of the Ontario Liberal Party. He’s currently the public affairs director for a well-known labour union. But he’s here today, because he’s a co-founder of Air Quotes Media — together with Jody Colero, Jill Engelman, David Rosenberg and myself — and one of the creators of “The Herle Burly” and “Curse of Politics” podcasts.

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