This is the second of a two part podcast series with Joel Simmons and Peter McCormick, founder and maestro of TurfNet. Peter talks about his challenges, over the years, with depression, alcohol and other mental health considerations. He shares some of the warning signs and coping strategies that turf managers should be aware of.

In Part 1, the topics ranged from McCormick's background in the greenhouse and turf industries, his rebounding from various terminations and the beginning of TurfNet. They also discuss COVID and its repercussions for TurfNet and throughout the industry, now and moving forward. Peter touches on business planning (or not), decision making, innovation and other factors that have enabled TurfNet to change the turf industry for the better over the past 28 years.

Unvarnished and straight from the hip as McCormick is wont to do, this conversation explains and entertains with many career, business and life lessons and laughs.