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Katie is joined by Kate Willett to go over some recent news stories. Then Katie talks to CIA-turned-activist Ray McGovern about the War in Ukraine and the multipolar world order. Then she's joined by writer Freddie DeBoer who talks about his latest article "AOC Is Just a Regular Old Democrat Now" and what to do about it.

Kate Willett is a comedian, actress and writer who has appeared on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert and Netflix’s Comedy Lineup. She’s the author of the Audible Original “Dirtbag Anthropology.” She’s the cohost of the political comedy podcast Reply Guys.

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Ray McGovern is a former CIA analyst turned activist. He headed the CIA branch analyzing Russian foreign policy in the 70s. From 1981 to 1985, he presented, in person, the early morning briefings of The President’s Daily Brief. Ray was awarded the Intelligence Commendation Medallion at retirement; in an act of conscience in early 2006 Ray returned the Medallion, explaining, “I do not want to be associated, however remotely, with an agency engaged in torture.” In January 2003, two months before the U.S. attacked Iraq, he co-founded Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity to warn the President that the “intelligence” on Iraq was fraudulent.

Link to Ray's website - https://raymcgovern.com/

Freddie DeBoer is a writer, the author of “The Cult of Smart: How Our Broken Education System Perpetuates Social Injustice” and the forthcoming book "How Elites Ate the Social Justice Movement." He writes at https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/.

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