In this week’s episode, Drew plays a made-up game that we’re still trying to wrap our heads around and we talk about our infatuation with ‘Christian’ (air quotes there) athletes. Finally, Michael finishes with a story about when he totaled his youth pastors’ car.

This week Michael shares his theory on youth and kids pastors. Drew teaches us how to get into “Ghetto Mode,” and we discuss whether or not youth pastors should be calling their wives hot.

On Episode 4 we interview Andrew Murch, Lead Pastor of LifePoint Church in Vancouver, WA and Co-Host of the To Be The Church Podcast. Also, we delve into Drew’s secret past as a Justin Bieber cover artist, and what it means to be a spiritual doula.

In this episode, a game of “Who Said That?” turns into a game of “Drew Roasts Michael’s Instagram.” Also, we talk about musical worship songs that make us feel uncomfortable, and hear about Drew’s very first sermon.

We talk about youth pastor threats, broken bones, and whether or not teenagers are actually compelled to attend a youth gathering if a youth pastor tells them to do so on Instagram.

We kick-off our very first episode of the Ex-Youth Pastors Podcast by talking about ankle monitors, subtweeting, and number dropping.