Exploring More

Mapping Darkness and Light: Discernment, Love, and the Spiritual Battle

In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings dive into the ongoing spiritual battle between darkness and light. Using stories from Scripture, personal experiences, and even a 1974 NFL game, they highlight the critical importance of discernment—knowing the enemy's tactics and understanding where you are on the map of the Larger Story.

They explore how love, kindness, and forgiveness aren't passive virtues—they're powerful weapons in spiritual warfare. Whether it's learning to resist the devil, naming deceptive thoughts, or walking in mercy toward others, this conversation offers wisdom and tools for fighting well and living free.

Michael and SJ remind us that we were never meant to walk this path alone. With the guidance of the Holy Spirit, the support of community, and the clarity that comes from spiritual training, we can navigate this battle with courage and hope.

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The Hero's Journey and the Map of the Larger Story

In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings dive deeper into the theme of this first series: learning to read the map of the Larger Story. Through the lens of beloved classics like Pinocchio, The Lion King, and The Wizard of Oz, they unpack the shape of the hero's journey and the spiritual landscape we all live in—one marked by darkness and light, conflict and redemption.

Michael and SJ explore how the Old and New Covenants frame our understanding of the battle for identity, authority, and purpose. They reflect on personal experiences, spiritual formation, and the power of belief and story in shaping our path. With the help of the digital and physical Zoweh Map, they reveal why orientation and training are critical for every man who wants to know where he is and where he's going.

This episode invites you to slow down, study the map, and ask God what He sees in you and your story. Because in a world at war, clarity is everything—and healing begins when we understand the terrain.

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Maps, Mountain Lions, and the Larger Story

Season Five kicks off with Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings reflecting on where the journey has taken them—and where it's going next. Surrounded by memorabilia, laughter, and memories, they introduce the guiding theme for this new season: understanding the larger story through the lens of maps, spiritual reality, and the battle between light and darkness.

From tales of mountain lions in Montana to metaphors pulled from The Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter, this episode invites listeners to reframe how they see their lives—not as random or isolated, but as part of a greater narrative shaped by love, war, and redemption.

Michael and SJ emphasize the centrality of the heart in that story, the importance of spiritual awareness, and the need to know where you are and where you're headed. This season, the podcast will explore Zoweh's Map of the Larger Story, offering listeners tools, truth, and orientation to help them navigate life in both the physical and spiritual realms.

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Hearing God's Voice: Removing Obstacles and Restoring Intimacy

In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and Josh Overton dive into one of the most personal and transformative themes of the spiritual journey: hearing the voice of God. Through stories, theology, and personal reflection, they remind us that God is still speaking—and always has been.

Michael shares a powerful encounter in an aspen grove, while Josh recalls a moment of divine validation as a "Giant Slayer." Together, they unpack the misconceptions, fears, and shame that often block us from hearing God clearly and offer encouragement for both solitude and community as sacred spaces where we can connect with Him.

They also introduce their new YouVersion reading plan, "Comforted by God," which is designed to help listeners engage in contemplative prayer and learn how to hear God's voice in everyday moments. From walking in the woods to holding a rock in your hand, no moment is too ordinary for God to speak.

This episode is an invitation to posture your heart to listen, believe He's speaking, and experience the comfort of His voice.

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King Me: Becoming the Hero in Your Story

In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson shares a powerful conversation with Jim Ramos, host of the Men in the Arena podcast, centered on the themes of King Me—the masculine journey, identity, and living as image bearers of God.

Michael unpacks the five stages of a man's life: boyhood, explorer, warrior, king, and elder sage, and the importance of validation and initiation in each. Together, they explore the wounds men carry, the battles they face, and the calling to live as strong and kind kings who reflect the glory of God.

The conversation is filled with practical wisdom for cultivating intimacy in marriage, blessing your children, and seeking healing from past pain. With honesty and encouragement, Michael and Jim invite men to ask two life-shaping questions: How do You see me, God? and How do I see myself?

This episode is a clarion call to step into the Larger Story, live from a whole heart, and reign well in the relationships that matter most.

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Writing King Me: Friendship, Editing, and the Journey to Wholeness

In this special episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson sits down with longtime friend and editor Bob Harding to reflect on the creative journey behind King Me. What began as a professional connection through a mutual friend soon became a deep friendship rooted in trust, truth, and the shared mission of helping men rediscover their identity as beloved sons.

Michael and Bob recount how their work together on The Heart of a Warrior paved the way for a more intimate collaboration on King Me—a book crafted not just through edits, but through prayer, coaching, and candid conversations. They share honest stories about the writing process, preserving Michael's unique voice, and the growth that unfolded for them both.

More than a behind-the-scenes look at a book, this episode offers insight into the power of brotherhood, creative vulnerability, and the healing that comes when we tell our stories well. With humor, heart, and deep appreciation, Michael and Bob invite listeners to see what can happen when two hearts align for a greater good.

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Listening, Naming, and Hearing God: Wrapping Up Season Four

In the final episode of season four, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings close out their five-part series on listening with a heartfelt reflection on what it means to truly pay attention—to others, to ourselves, and to God. They revisit the podcast's journey since 2018, the shift to video, and the personal stories that have shaped their own listening growth.

This conversation explores the deeper layers of listening: the spiritual practice of naming, the voices that influence us, and how empathy, curiosity, and presence can bless—or wound—the people around us. Michael and SJ reflect on how listening connects us to love and how hearing from God anchors all other listening.

They offer practical guidance for discerning God's voice and share plans for the upcoming season, which will explore the Larger Story map and the heart of a listener. Whether you've journeyed through every episode or just joined the conversation, this one invites you to keep growing, keep listening, and keep exploring more.

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Being Heard: The Healing Power of Presence and Empathy

In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue their journey into the art of listening—focusing on what it means to truly hear someone. They explore how childhood wounds, family dynamics, and emotional disconnects can shape our experience of being missed, misunderstood, or invalidated.

Through personal stories and practical insights, they highlight what engaged listening actually requires: empathy, presence, safety, and attentiveness. From naming emotions to avoiding common pitfalls like "the advice-giver" or "the story diverter," Michael and SJ offer helpful strategies to listen in ways that foster connection and healing.

They reflect on how even a well-intentioned response can shut someone down—and how a well-timed question like "Where would you like to start?" can open the door to trust. This conversation is a powerful reminder that being truly heard can be transformational, and that listening well is one of the greatest gifts we can offer.

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The Extra Mile: Listening Like Jesus

In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue their conversation on the transformative power of listening—not just with our ears, but with our hearts. Drawing from Jesus' invitation to go the extra mile, they explore what it means to carry someone's emotional or spiritual load by offering your full attention and presence.

With stories from encounter weekends, medic training, and the life of Jesus Himself, the hosts highlight the difference between "active" and "engaged" listening. They share how true listening builds trust, invites healing, and fosters deep relational and spiritual connection.

Michael and SJ reflect on the pain of being misunderstood, the power of asking good questions, and the sacred ministry of simply being with someone in their moment. In a world that often talks too much and listens too little, this episode is a call to love others by listening well—like Jesus did.

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The Art of Listening: Building Trust, Connection, and Space for the Soul

In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings begin a new series on listening—not just hearing, but truly engaging. They explore how good listening fosters trust, empathy, and connection, while poor listening erodes relationships over time. From the noise of everyday life to the emotional distractions within us, the hosts unpack why listening well is harder than we think—and more important than we realize.

Drawing from personal stories, humor (including a nod to comedian Brian Regan's "me monster"), and practical tips, Michael and SJ introduce the idea of "engaging listening"—a deeper, more relational approach that requires presence, emotional awareness, and intentionality. They reflect on their own growth, the pitfalls of distraction, and the small habits that either build or break connection over time.

This episode also hints at what's ahead: listening not just to others, but to God. Because in a world full of noise, creating space to hear His voice might be the most transformative practice of all.

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