In this powerful interview, Isaiah Saldivar sits down with best-selling author Alexander Pagani to discuss his brand-new book, Manipulated: 10 Toxic Traits of Legalism. Pagani exposes how legalistic churches can twist Scripture, use fear and control to dominate believers, and replace the grace of Jesus with man-made rules.

Drawing from his own experience in a cult-like denomination, Pagani reveals how legalism stifles spiritual growth, damages relationships, and leads to spiritual bondage. You’ll learn how to identify manipulation in leadership, break free from religious control, and rediscover the true gospel of grace, love, and freedom in Christ.

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