The Big Themes:
• Facebook is evil: It’s a lot like going to work for Philip Morris 30 years ago. We should continue to invest in solving the world’s problems.
• Tesla is undervalued: Tesla is a software company. Tesla is an automaker – and in five years we’ll see who’s right.
• An interesting and kind of fun way: How can you make these companies more software companies over the next few years?
• The faster we can get there: When we’re taking shots at social media – there’s big problems that need to be addressed.

The Big Quotes:
“And frankly, every time I think, okay we've hit rock bottom. It's like they figured out a way to drill further into the rock and look worse.”

“And so we need to be really careful that we don't I think that we don't paint with too broad a brush there.”

“Do you work digital or not? It's just like, so are you going to work or you're going to retire?”

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