In which Josh and Nick talk about the beginning of the sagging middle of Antichrist Superstar, starting with "Little Horn." This is also the episode that Nick is most afraid to come out. It's -- embarrassing.

Topics include:

• Gotta have those tricks
• Zim Zum or the Other One
• Lyrical Garbage
• This is not a biblical history podcast but
• George Romero rolling his eyes
• A Manson Grinch smile
• I know but please still listen to the next episode
• Why are zombie blow jobs important?
• Vapid Racist Superstar Says Nothing
• The "Break Stuff" of Antichrist Superstar
• Unhealthy fan gotchas
• Deep streaking phase
• Never Once
• Jean Licker
• Sorry to the person in the windbreaker suit
• Sad Spider-Man pointing at himself meme
• Meaphor judgin'
• The Moral of Little Horn

Music or sound used that we don't own and are appreciative to not be sued over:

• "The Middle" by Jimmy Eat World
• An explanation of "sagging middle syndrome" from Jenna Moreci's YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@JennaMoreci) is extracted from a video titled "How to Combat Sagging Middle Syndrome in Your Writing" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gt61PWmhTc). The erasure of references to actual books and readers (in order to make it broader to apply to the uncooked middle of musical enterprises) is our own.

Josh and Nick were best friends in high school and helped each other through the difficult times as sensitive boys amidst chaos. They were also big fans of dark and loud music, including albums created by people who were monsters in real life. Nick now lives in California, Josh in Georgia, but they reconnected recently to talk about what the heck they were thinking 25 years ago and how it shaped them. This is not nostalgia.

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Josh and Nick ooze about "Tourniquet," the fourth track off Antichrist Superstar. This song and music video were the stylemaker for two impressionable boys so they approach it with bittersweet feelings. They're all bittersweet, aren't they? Except for the bitter ones. But those were the ones sprinkles with a little Sinister Spice. Topics include:

• Dirty Pop
• While My Guitar Gently Whines
• Two Lyrics Alike in Dignity
• Stupidcringyweird 90s Aesthetic
• Spit Dog Horse Flies
• Wedge to the Mainstream
• Alone in the Shower
• A Dance of Prosthetics
• Cat Food
• Take Yow
• Emotionally, Artistically Spent
• The Good Old Days Are Just Old Days
• Great to See You Smiling
• Minerals of Sadness
• Warning: Two Cis Straight White Guys Talking About Gender Norms
• Is Linda Williams Listening?
• The Parlor Trick of Twist
• Sell-Outs and Posers
• Dear Guy with the Devil Horns Medallion
• Jared Leto Can Speak to You
• The Sugar Ray Mutation
• The Red Hot Chili Peppers Happen to You
• Sinister Spice

Content by other people that did not give us permission to use it but we hope they fall under fair use to illustrate our points:

• "Mr. Rogers" by Korn
• Dead Ringers (1988)
• "Breathe" by Sugar Ray
• "Fly" by Sugar Ray (don't let Nick convince you otherwise)
• "Ghosts" by The Side Deal

Josh and Nick were best friends in high school and helped each other through the difficult times as sensitive boys amidst chaos. They were also big fans of dark and loud music, including albums created by people who were monsters in real life. Nick now lives in California, Josh in Georgia, but they reconnected recently to talk about what the heck they were thinking 25 years ago and how it shaped them. This is not nostalgia.

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Josh and Nick talk about "Dried Up, Tied Up, and Dead to the World," the third track off of Marilyn Manson's Antichrist Superstar. They create the superhero you don't need but the superhero we probably all are inside. Topics include:

• Tiger Laundry!
• You Did What in a Basement?
• The Lost Opus
• Discarded, Smelly Teens
• Thousand-Yard Stare of the Dead
• A Hurdle to Tourniquet
• I'll Be Anything When I'm on Surge
• The Rage of Voices (TW: Suicidal Thoughts)
• Embracing vs Becoming the Sad
• Anti-Crysalis
• Enter: Disintegrator
• Sad Spider-Man
• Wish to Be a God Who Doesn't Feel
• Manson Gave You All the Clues
• Sober Old Man Educated on Obvious Drug Reference
• Things That Make You Go Eeugh
• Sad Moth-Man
• Fizzling to Nonsense
• Soiled Twine Twalk
• Best American Poetry for Vomiting 1996
• Connect Your Own Dots
• You Are The Sad Spider-Man Now

Songs used in this episode that we do not own but appreciate being made:

• "Blue Diamond" by aivi & surasshu and Rebecca Sugar
• "Pinion" by Nine Inch Nails

Josh and Nick were best friends in high school and helped each other through the difficult times as sensitive boys amidst chaos. They were also big fans of dark and loud music, including albums created by people who were monsters in real life. Nick now lives in California, Josh in Georgia, but they reconnected recently to talk about what the heck they were thinking 25 years ago and how it shaped them. This is not nostalgia.

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Josh and Nick discuss "The Beautiful People" by Marilyn Manson, the second track of Antichrist Superstar and probably the big introduction of Manson to the people at large in 1996. It was also the opportunity for the Sweet Dreamers and Portrait Fans to snirk at the baby Manson fans. Gatekeeping is, sadly, not new.

Topics include:

• Not the Ed Sheeran song
• CD Single Case Hate
• Salvo for Casual
• We Are The Choir
• Seeing to BeLIEve (TW: Self-Harm 12:41-18:31)
• Dopehat Hipsters
• Cake is Not a Lie
• Fascism Wrapped with a Creepy Bow
• Save It For the Cup!
• Hey, I Want to Burn the World Down? Come Join Me?
• Gotta Watch That Zombieman
• Horror in Suburban Comfort
• Mom, Can You Buy Me the Antichrist?
• Who is Manson Screaming At?
• Musicians as Fascist Lil' Stinkers
• Balancing on the End of a Lowland Gorilla
• The Nineties is in Me
• The Rise and Decline of Maggot Impresarios  

Music/Sounds used that do not belong to us:

"Beautiful People (Instrumental)" by Ed Sheeran
"Guilty" by Gravity Kills
"The Distance" by Cake
"I Will Survive" by Cake
"Short Skirt/Long Jacket" by Cake
"Never There" by Cake
"Sheep Go to Heaven" by Cake
"The Sound of Silence" by Simon and Garfunkel
"Final Fantasy VI Kefka Theme ( Hip Hop Version )" by PianoKad (YouTube)
"Stinkfist" by Tool
"Friends Intro - Theme Music Removed, replaced with sound design." by Ross Tregenza (YouTube)

Josh and Nick were best friends in high school and helped each other through the difficult times as sensitive boys amidst chaos. They were also big fans of dark and loud music, including albums created by people who were monsters in real life. Nick now lives in California, Josh in Georgia, but they reconnected recently to talk about what the heck they were thinking 25 years ago and how it shaped them. This is not nostalgia.

Intro and Outro music by Overwhelmed (BandCamp)
Email questions and concerns to [email protected]

Josh and Nick discuss "Irresponsible Hate Anthem" by Marilyn Manson, the opening track of Antichrist Superstar. Warning: at a certain point early in this episode, Phil Anselmo will scream at you. Topics Include:

• No, Man. It's a Bucket of Hate.
• Glee But Metal
• Feeling the Sounds Ripped from Our Brains
• Why Can No One Make a Fried Green Tomato?
• Go Be in a Building with a Cross
• Weaponizing the Toxicity
• Scorched Earth is a Disproportionate Response
• Somehow Josh is Not a Thesaurus
• Why Hasn't Sean Connery Been in Movies Lately? (RIP Daisy)
• Kefkaesque and Our Spicy FF6 Lineups
• Avoiding Your Life to Avoid Failure
• Just Unnecessary Gau Dunking

Josh and Nick were best friends in high school and helped each other through the difficult times as sensitive boys amidst chaos. They were also big fans of dark and loud music, including albums created by people who were monsters in real life. Nick now lives in California, Josh in Georgia, but they reconnected recently to talk about what the heck they were thinking 25 years ago and how it shaped them. This is not nostalgia.

Intro and Outro music by Overwhelmed (BandCamp)
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A quick introduction to what this is and why Josh and Nick are spending a lot of time going song by song through Antichrist Superstar by Marilyn Manson to discuss being a teenager in the 90s, being raised in the South, and being a full-throat supporter of a man who was revealed to be a monster (but in violently more human ways than the picketers had assumed). 

Josh and Nick were best friends in high school and helped each other through the difficult times as sensitive boys amidst chaos. They were also big fans of dark and loud music, including albums created by people who were monsters in real life. Nick now lives in California, Josh in Georgia, but they reconnected recently to talk about what the heck they were thinking 25 years ago and how it shaped them. This is not nostalgia.

Intro and Outro music by Overwhelmed (BandCamp)
Email questions and concerns to [email protected]