In this episode, host Beth Cougler Blom talks with facilitator and business owner Myriam Hadnes about making bold decisions in business, setting boundaries, and the power of saying no. Myriam shares her journey from academia to facilitation, the evolution of her NeverDoneBefore community, and why she ultimately chose to close it in favour of new opportunities.

Beth and Myriam also talk about:

• Recognizing when to pivot and let go of a project, even when it’s loved by a community
• How Myriam gamified the process of setting boundaries more consistently
• The importance of doing our own inner work as facilitators

Engage with Myriam Hadnes

• Website: https://workshops.work/

Links From the Episode:

• Art of Hosting
• Myriam's Boundary Tower for setting boundaries
• EP 51: Keeping Burnout at Bay with Beth Cougler Blom
• Simon Sinek

Connect with the Facilitating on Purpose podcast:

• Follow Facilitating on Purpose on Instagram, LinkedIn, or YouTube
• Show notes and transcripts available at facilitatingonpurpose.com

Connect with Host Beth Cougler Blom:

• Give feedback or suggest upcoming show topics or guests at [email protected]
• Visit bcblearning.com to explore Beth's company's services in facilitation and learning design
• Purchase a copy of Beth's book, Design to Engage
• Follow Beth on Instagram or LinkedIn

  Podcast production services by Mary Chan of Organized Sound Productions

In this solo episode, host Beth Cougler Blom explores some of the risks, signs, and symptoms of burnout, particularly for people involved in facilitation or entrepreneurial work. Beth shares some of her personal struggles of 2024, discussing why setting boundaries, creating support systems, and saying the "right yesses" matters. She also offers some practical strategies to help people take care of themselves as well as reconnect with purpose and joy in their work.

Links From the Episode

• Rest Deck from the Nap Ministry
• Should We Do This Work? decision-making matrix (links to show notes on BCB Learning website)

Connect with the Facilitating on Purpose podcast:

• Follow Facilitating on Purpose on Instagram, LinkedIn, or YouTube
• Show notes and transcripts available at facilitatingonpurpose.com

Connect with Host Beth Cougler Blom:

• Give feedback or suggest upcoming show topics or guests at [email protected]
• Visit bcblearning.com to explore Beth's company's services in facilitation and learning design
• Purchase a copy of Beth's book, Design to Engage
• Follow Beth on Instagram or LinkedIn

Podcast production services by Mary Chan of Organized Sound Productions

In this episode, host Beth Cougler Blom talks with Mary Chan, audio engineer, podcast strategist, and voice coach, about the power of voice in facilitation and beyond. Mary shares her personal journey from being behind the mic in radio to empowering others to embrace their unique voices. This engaging conversation will leave you inspired to experiment with your own voice and connect more meaningfully with others.

Beth and Mary also explore:

• Practical voice warm-ups and exercises to prepare for facilitation
• The importance of vocal diversity and authenticity in connecting with groups
• How to use voice to influence energy and engagement in a room
• Debunking myths about “professional” voices and embracing individuality
• Tips for amplifying your voice with confidence in facilitation and everyday life

Engage with Mary Chan:

• Website: https://www.organizedsound.ca/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychan-organizedsound/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/organizedsoundproductions/

Links From the Episode:

• Why Filler Words Like "Like" Are Powerful with Alexandra D'Arcy - EP 18 on The Podcaster's Guide to a Visible Voice
• Wordslut: A Feminist Guide to Taking Back the English Language by Amanda Montell (book)
• EP 12 Stuttering and Facilitation with Maya Chupkov (on Facilitating on Purpose podcast)
• EP 6 Learning From Our Mistakes with Beth Cougler Blom (on Facilitating on Purpose podcast)

Connect with the Facilitating on Purpose podcast:

• Follow Facilitating on Purpose on Instagram, LinkedIn, or YouTube
• Show notes and transcripts available at facilitatingonpurpose.com

Connect with Host Beth Cougler Blom:

• Give feedback or suggest upcoming show topics or guests at [email protected]
• Visit bcblearning.com to explore Beth's company's services in facilitation and learning design
• Purchase a copy of Beth's book, Design to Engage
• Follow Beth on Instagram or LinkedIn

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In this episode, host Beth Cougler Blom talks with Theresa Destrebecq about her work facilitating book circles and how she creates deeper learning experiences for people through these book-based communities.

Beth and Theresa also discuss:

• Theresa's career shift from teaching to coaching to facilitating
• Why her company's motto is "read deeper, not faster"
• Balancing experiential learning and personal connection in book discussions
• Strategies for engaging participants in book circles
• Using sketchnotes and accountability partners to support learning

Engage with Theresa Destrebecq

• Website: Emerge Book Circles
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theresadestrebecq/
• The Leader Learner Podcast

Links From the Episode

• Adam Grant
• Dr. Stuart Brown
• Facilitating Breakthrough by Adam Kahane
• Dr. David Rock, Neuroleadership Institute
• Jim Kwik
• A Suitable Boy by Vikram Seth
• Richard Wagamese
• Unbound by Kasia Urbaniak
• The Message by Ta-Nehisi Coates
• The Covenant of Water by Abraham Verghese
• Right Within by Minda Harts
• MyFest

Connect with the Facilitating on Purpose podcast:

• Follow Facilitating on Purpose on Instagram, LinkedIn, or YouTube
• Show notes and transcripts available at facilitatingonpurpose.com

Connect with Host Beth Cougler Blom:

• Give feedback or suggest upcoming show topics or guests at [email protected]
• Visit bcblearning.com to explore Beth's company's services in facilitation and learning design
• Purchase a copy of Beth's book, Design to Engage
• Follow Beth on Instagram or LinkedIn

Podcast production services by Mary Chan of Organized Sound Productions

In this episode, host Beth Cougler Blom talks with Jessica Lane and Jacob McMurray from the Museum of Pop Culture (MoPOP) in Seattle, Washington, about how they create engaging learning experiences through exhibits and programs. Jacob, the Chief Collections and Exhibitions Officer, and Jessica, the Director of Education and Programs, share their perspectives on the museum's unique approach to pop culture.

Beth, Jessica, and Jacob also talk about:

• Using pop culture to build connections and inspire creativity
• Engaging youth and families in interactive and meaningful ways
• The process of exhibit design, from conception to continuous updates
• How MoPOP uses its exhibits as springboards for deeper learning through education programs
• Designing for inclusivity, including sensory-friendly experiences and universal design principles

Engage with Jessica, Jacob, and the Museum of Pop Culture

• MoPOP website: www.mopop.org
• Jacob McMurray on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacobmcmurray/
• Jessica Lane on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-lane-635719b0/

Connect with the Facilitating on Purpose podcast:

• Follow Facilitating on Purpose on Instagram, LinkedIn, or YouTube
• Show notes and transcripts available at facilitatingonpurpose.com

Connect with Host Beth Cougler Blom:

• Give feedback or suggest upcoming show topics or guests at [email protected]
• Visit bcblearning.com to explore Beth's company's services in facilitation and learning design
• Purchase a copy of Beth's book, Design to Engage
• Follow Beth on Instagram or LinkedIn

Podcast production services by Mary Chan of Organized Sound Productions

In this solo episode, host Beth Cougler Blom explores the critical role that learning outcomes play in designing effective learning experiences. Beth shares practical insights on crafting clear, learner-centred outcomes that form the foundation of any well-designed workshop or course. She explains the difference between learning outcomes and learning objectives, offers guidance on aligning outcomes with activities and assessments, and provides tips for selecting measurable verbs that reflect desired behaviour changes—all to help streamline content and ensure relevance in your learning designs.

Links From the Episode

• Design to Engage: How to Create and Facilitate a Great Learning Experience For Any Group, by Beth Cougler Blom
• Universal Design for Learning Guidelines from CAST
• Download learning outcomes verbs lists on the Design to Engage book page

Connect with the Facilitating on Purpose podcast:

• Follow Facilitating on Purpose on Instagram, LinkedIn, or YouTube
• Show notes and transcripts available at facilitatingonpurpose.com

Connect with Host Beth Cougler Blom:

• Give feedback or suggest upcoming show topics or guests at [email protected]
• Visit bcblearning.com to explore Beth's company's services in facilitation and learning design
• Purchase a copy of Beth's book, Design to Engage
• Follow Beth on Instagram or LinkedIn

Podcast production services by Mary Chan of Organized Sound Productions

In this episode, host Beth Cougler Blom talks with Dr. Suzanne Wertheim, author of The Inclusive Language Field Guide. They explore how facilitators and educators can develop the habit of using inclusive language and why it's critical to their work. Suzanne shares practical strategies for identifying problematic language, addressing resistance, and shifting perspectives to create more inclusive learning environments.

Beth and Suzanne also talk about:

• How facilitators can invite feedback to improve their language use
• The importance of optimizing language for inclusivity and avoiding erasure
• How to address resistance to inclusive language in a productive, respectful manner
• How practice and mindfulness can make inclusive language second nature

Engage with Dr. Suzanne Wertheim

• worthwhileconsulting.com
• suzannewertheim.com
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzannewertheim-inclusivelanguageexpert/

Other Links from the Episode

• Foundational Ally Skill series
• Universal Design
• BCcampus
• Curb cut effect
• Crip linguistics: Crip linguistics is a new subfield that brings a rigorously scientific lens to the study of language produced by disabled people and about disabled people.

Connect with the Facilitating on Purpose podcast:

• Follow Facilitating on Purpose on Instagram, LinkedIn, or YouTube
• Show notes and transcripts available at facilitatingonpurpose.com

Connect with Host Beth Cougler Blom:

• Give feedback or suggest upcoming show topics or guests at [email protected]
• Visit bcblearning.com to explore Beth's company's services in facilitation and learning design
• Purchase a copy of Beth's book, Design to Engage
• Follow Beth on Instagram or LinkedIn

Podcast production services by Mary Chan of Organized Sound Productions

In this episode, Beth Cougler Blom talks with Khari McClelland about his path to becoming a facilitator and what defines great facilitation. Khari reflects on a transformative camp experience that sparked his passion for this work and shares his thoughts on the power of presence, curiosity, and navigating discomfort. He emphasizes the role of facilitators in setting the tone and creating spaces that honour participants’ experiences.

Beth and Khari also discuss:

• the importance of flexibility and adapting to the group's needs
• how facilitation is like music, with rhythm, pacing, and composition
• facilitating across cultures with humility and curiosity
• the impact of making participants feel heard, seen, and valued

Engage with Khari McClelland

• Website: kwmfacilitation.com
• Instagram: @igobykhari

Other Links from the Episode

• Rupinder Sidhu
• Sara Kendall
• Peggy Taylor
• Nadia Chaney
• Hollyhock Retreat Centre [search this site for Khari's upcoming Gathering when advertised]

Connect with the Facilitating on Purpose podcast:

• Follow Facilitating on Purpose on Instagram, LinkedIn, or YouTube
• Show notes and transcripts available at facilitatingonpurpose.com

Connect with Host Beth Cougler Blom:

• Give feedback or suggest upcoming show topics or guests at [email protected]
• Visit bcblearning.com to explore Beth's company's services in facilitation and learning design
• Purchase a copy of Beth's book, Design to Engage
• Follow Beth on Instagram or LinkedIn

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In this episode, Beth Cougler Blom talks with Wouter Smeets about shifting the focus from productivity to aliveness at work. Wouter, founder of Life-Centric Work Lab, shares how important it is to challenge accepted norms about work and how our work, if we do facilitation or another role, can support well-being, happiness, and personal growth.

Beth and Wouter also discuss:

• self-awareness and understanding individual needs
• creating supportive work and group environments
• integrated aliveness into facilitation and client work

Engage with Wouter Smeets

• Website: https://lifecentricworklab.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wouter-smeets/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/life-centric-work-lab

Other Links from the Episode

• Manual of Me

Connect with the Facilitating on Purpose podcast:

• Follow Facilitating on Purpose on Instagram, LinkedIn, or YouTube
• Show notes and transcripts available at facilitatingonpurpose.com

Connect with Host Beth Cougler Blom:

• Give feedback or suggest upcoming show topics or guests at [email protected]
• Visit bcblearning.com to explore Beth's company's services in facilitation and learning design
• Purchase a copy of Beth's book, Design to Engage
• Follow Beth on Instagram or LinkedIn

Podcast production services by Mary Chan of Organized Sound Productions

In this solo episode, Beth Cougler Blom shares her journey of writing her book, Design to Engage: How to Create and Facilitate a Great Learning Experience For Any Group. She talks about her research and self-reflection process, using tools like Trello, setting daily writing goals, and taking writing retreats.

Beth highlights the value of revisions and working with editors. She also shares insights on designing a professional-looking book and her decisions about publishing. Beth reflects on learning from interviews with facilitators, how the project impacted her career, and offers advice for aspiring authors, with a hint at her next book.

Links From the Episode

• Trello
• Scrivener
• Elaine Cougler, Author
• Anne Lamott
• Friesen Press

Connect with the Facilitating on Purpose podcast:

• Follow Facilitating on Purpose on Instagram, LinkedIn, or YouTube
• Show notes and transcripts available at facilitatingonpurpose.com

Connect with Host Beth Cougler Blom:

• Give feedback or suggest upcoming show topics or guests at [email protected]
• Visit bcblearning.com to explore Beth's company's services in facilitation and learning design
• Purchase a copy of Beth's book, Design to Engage
• Follow Beth on Instagram or LinkedIn

Podcast production services by Mary Chan of Organized Sound Productions