In this programme, ffinlo Costain talks to two storytelling giants from the world of farming - Graham Harvey, former scriptwriter and farming story editor for the long-running BBC Radio drama, The Archers - And Ben Eagle who runs the podcast agency RuralPod Media and is the host of two farming podcasts: Rural Business Focus and Meet The Farmers.

They talk about the public perception of farming, the stories the industry chooses to tell, and how storytelling helps to shape the political, scientific and practical choices of farmers and policymakers.

They also talk about The Archers and the role that it's played in shaping the public and political perception of farming issues.

Graham's book, Underneath the Archers can be found at Waterstones and on Amazon. RuralPod Media can be found here.