This show as first broadcast November 25, 2007. It features an interview with Methuselah Mouse Prize co-founder Dave Gobel.

Original Description

Phil and Stephen are back with an interview of Dave Gobel. Dave cofounded with Aubrey de Grey the Methuselah Mouse Prize - a prize for proving life extension technologies in mice. This interview explains why developing life extension matters more, fundamentally, that almost anything else we can put our efforts into.