Sofie talks to Aubrey Gordon about her book What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat, her podcast Maintenance Phase, becoming un-anonymous, talking into microphones, self deception, fucking up hard, consensus based decisions, change, anger, and her childhood bathroom scales.

Content Warning: COVID, fatphobia, diet culture, trauma, discomfort, racism, transphobia, harassment, misogyny, white supremacist movements, homophobia, death threats, mental health issues

What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/645819/what-we-dont-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-fat-by-aubrey-gordon/

Maintenance Phase: http://maintenancephase.com/

Produced by Dave Pickering

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