In part two of a two part conversation Sofie talks to Jes Baker about oracle cards, angel cards, crystals, seeing a social justice based psychic, imagination, scepticism, activism, religion, working in a bookstore, coexisting truths, and Kurt Vonnegut.

Trigger warning –  anxiety, PTSD, guilt, mental illness, therapy, Mormonism, body image, organised religion, diet culture, purity culture, sex, sexuality, online abuse, guilt, trauma, emotional pain

Artwork by Justine McNichol

Jingle by Harriet Braine

Produced by Dave Pickering

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