Paul joins in and we catch up with what's he is up to. We then go into if he had one bait, rod, reel for certain waters. This leads into bait depth chat and musky show thoughts.

Brian and Jacqi from the Jefferson Project phone in and tell us what they been up to in the last few months on Chautauqua lake. It is very evident from the start we are out gunned in the entire conversation. If you like to hear about science stuff, this show is for you. YA SCIENCE! 

We start off the show by answering a listener's question. Then dive into some speculation, not exactly scientific findings to gauge if we feel its possible to predict musky activity. 

We discuss the recent huge winds, near net failures, gaffs and lifting fish by the eyes.

Todd introduces us to the "LL Cool Bart"

We learn about "The Bush"

Lithium marine battery talk

Andy's family has grown by one.

Vance and Todd talk about their season so far, and recent trends. Vance tells a cool big fish story

Andy, Vance and Todd give a run down of bad advise in a very disorganized fashion

By happenstance Charlie was swinging by the shop about the time we were going to record a show, and accepted our invite to join in. He is secretary for MI Chapter 16. We talk a little about his fishing career, we discuss his involvement in MI, and joins in the story telling. 

We have a light hearted discussion about what aspects could be considered "cheating" in musky fishing. Don't get us wrong, we are not hating, just letting our minds drift. 

Not wasting an opportunity, we brainstorm an invention from our cheating talk. We then add what would be head lines that would stem from it. 

Andy and Vance shoot the bull on this show. Sharing stories about taking planner boards to the face, stiches, and talking about if there will be a show season.