John-Henry Westen speaks with Paul Kramer about the controversy surrounding the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI and whether it met the requirements of canon law. The discussion centers on the distinction between munus (office) and ministerium (ministry), and how that difference could affect the legitimacy of later papal claims. The conversation explores broader theological questions about papal authority, heresy, and continuity in Church leadership. Implications for the pontificates of Pope Francis and Pope Leo XIV are also examined, underscoring ongoing debates within Catholic circles over authority, clarity, and fidelity to tradition.

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