In this episode Kristy Grant-Hart, author of How to be a Wildly Successful Compliance Officer joins me to debate the merits of the ISO 37001 certification. I think the process is worse than useless while Kristy believes they are a step forward. 

For our additional written commentary on this issues, see Kristy's post The top five myths about ISO 37001 exposed.

For my views in opposition, see ENI Receives an ISO 37001 Certification and ENI CEO Charged with Corruption

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