Dr. Erica Bove believes that a woman’s emotional and energetic state at the time of embryo transfer directly affects whether that embryo implants. She has developed an intuitive sense for whether a transfer will work — and she has stopped procedures when a patient’s nervous system signaled she wasn’t in a receptive state. She aligns with Rosanne Austin’s teaching that you can have perfect clinical circumstances and still not get pregnant if the mind and body aren’t working together.

Not according to Dr. Bove. She argues that for many women in their forties, less is more — that the stress, expense, and physical toll of IVF may not confer a benefit over optimizing lifestyle, mindset, and natural conception attempts. If the tubes are open and the sperm is healthy, she advocates for a whole-person approach before jumping to aggressive interventions.

Dr. Bove has stopped transfers when she intuitively sensed a patient was not in a receptive state — too anxious, too stressed, too energetically blocked. She describes taking a moment to pray, meditate, or calm the room before proceeding, trusting that aligning the woman’s emotional state with the process improves outcomes. She credits this approach with some of her most successful results.

Dr. Bove identifies radical self-compassion — releasing shame, blame, and self-criticism — as the essential first step for any woman on the fertility journey. When women carry internalized negativity about their bodies or their journey, it creates vectors working against conception. She recommends Dr. Kristin Neff’s Mindful Self-Compassion Workbook as a practical resource.

Love and Science Fertility is Dr. Erica Bove’s practice built on the belief that compassionate, intuition-informed, whole-person care produces better outcomes than the factory model of reproductive medicine. She integrates the science of reproductive endocrinology with emotional attunement, patient empowerment, and the understanding that the mind and body must be aligned for fertility treatment to work. Learn more about her work alongside the Fearlessly Fertile Method at frommaybetobaby.com.

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[00:00:00] Hey, gorgeous. If you want success on your fertility journey, you’ve gotta have the mindset for it. It’s time to kick fear, negativity, doubt, shame, jealousy in the whole clown car of low vibe, fertility, journey BS to the curb. I’m your host, Roseanne Austin. Fertility Mindset Master, former prosecutor and recovering type a control freak, perfectionist.

[00:00:20] I use the power of minds. That to get pregnant naturally and have my baby boy at 43. Despite years of fertility treatment failure, I help women across the globe beat the odds on their fertility journey just like I did. Get ready for a quick hit of confidence, joy, feminine, bad assery, and loads of hell.

[00:00:37] Yes. For your fertility journey, it’s time to get

[00:00:39] fearless, baby fearlessly fertile. Let’s do this.

[00:00:45] Welcome to a very special presentation of the Fearlessly Fertile Podcast. This is your opportunity to get to meet Dr. Erica Bove, founder of Love and Science Fertility. I am so excited to [00:01:00] be having this conversation because I love change makers in the space of fertility.

[00:01:05] I love it when people are willing to think out of the box. Think about us as human beings and not just a number, not just a statistic, and not just some study they read 20 years ago. And you are going to find that Dr. Beau, well, she named the work that she does. Quite aptly. She brings love and science to the equation when we are talking about fertility.

[00:01:28] So check out my conversation with the amazing Dr. Erica Bove.

[00:01:34] Okay, Erica, we are going to start this conversation off. And I, it was, it was

[00:01:39] funny because when we met, uh, not that long ago when we first had our conversation, I’m like, oh, I love this woman. This woman is fantastic. So I’m really excited to have you on the podcast.

[00:01:51] Really excited to, for us to have a really great conversation about all things. Reproductive medicine, mind, body, all [00:02:00] that good stuff. So why don’t you start us off by sharing a little bit about how you became or got involved specifically, like why did you make OB GYN reproductive endocrinology your specialty?

[00:02:15] Absolutely. Um, so let’s see where to start. So I was born to a couple of medical people, so I, I think I can’t leave that out. And, you know, the first answer that came to me is because it’s my late grandfather’s spirit that is being channeled through me. Even yesterday at the time of this recording, we did an insemination for somebody.

[00:02:36] Whose grandchild was the patient of my grandfather. And so we were really helping to bring about the fourth generation of this family. And so, you know, that is really my first instinct is that I do believe in all of it. You know, I believe that our ancestors are with us. I do believe that certain continuations come through.

[00:02:55] And so, um, you know, my father’s a urologist. My mother’s a nurse. Um, [00:03:00] my father’s father was an OB, GYN, and I was the first grandchild not to be delivered by him ’cause he passed. Um. I know unexpectedly from a heart attack and, and so I’ve always felt this spiritual connection to him. So, you know, I don’t always go into this part of the story, but I think it’s relevant.

[00:03:14] And I, I, I tell you Roseanne, like I tried to do every other thing with my life. Like I tried to, you know, be a PhD in, in romance languages. I tried to like move to Italy and do a bunch of other things, but medicine really kept calling me. And, um, I even went to medicine and I was like. Oh, great. You know, I’ll, I’ll take a different course, I’ll be a psychiatrist.

[00:03:31] But it was the, the kinds of interactions I had in women’s health that were just unparalleled. I was like, you know what? I am helping people build their families. I’m helping the matriarchs of families. You know, you could just see what a palpable difference that, that people could make in this way. You know, I love working with mostly young, healthy women, uh, who are very motivated.

[00:03:50] That also helps. Um, but it’s just such a fun, exciting, dynamic, uh, field of medicine where you can really. See actionable problems and make a [00:04:00] difference. So that’s really how I found myself, uh, you know, in a career in OB GYN and specifically fertility medicine. I thought just, you know, kind of was the most meaningful for me and that’s where I found my calling.

[00:04:10] And I will also say my grandfather, my late grandfather, he was using Clid before. It was cool. Like he was, you know, doing all these things that like, you know, were ahead of his time. And so, you know, I, I think about that and I think, you know, there’s something in that story, and I think it’s where our passion and our purpose, you know, coalesce and that’s how we know we’re meant to do what we’re doing.

[00:04:32] Mm. Oh, that’s such a good point. Because I think a lot of people are laboring under the idea that work has to be hard and, you know, we have to, it’s gotta be a grind. But I love that what you’re talking about is a real spiritual calling, a real connection to what you’re doing, because then our quote unquote work doesn’t feel like work.

[00:04:55] It doesn’t feel like a slog. And we’re more willing to be innovative. We’re more willing [00:05:00] to consider options, think out of the box, do kind those kinds of things. Instead of just following some AI protocol.

[00:05:08] That’s right. And I, I think, you know, you go through this rigorous training where you kind of do what you’re told and you try to insert your individuality, but there’s not a lot of room for that.

[00:05:16] And as I got out into practice, I was really struggling because I’m like, I don’t think I meet that mold. Like I’m not that person. And I started to like, you know, really when the moment was appropriate, laugh with my patients. Cry with my patients. Um. You know, just really tune into my intuition and insert my personality.

[00:05:33] And that inserts really the wrong word, but just allow my personality to come through and, and use my intuition in these interactions, which just made it so much more fun. I’m like, Hey, you’re not gonna get another REI like me, but this is what allows me to stay into the work and it allows for this more human connection.

[00:05:48] And that really has been the key, I think, to sustaining the work over time because. You know, when I tried to do that sort of sterile, you know, the way that you’re taught to do it, it was not working for me. It was not working for my patients, and I’m so grateful I could [00:06:00] find another way.

[00:06:01] Yeah. Well, and I think it’s funny.

[00:06:02] I mean, I think there is a huge changing tide. Yes. I mean, at the time of this recording, something really horrifying happened not that long ago in the healthcare industry. I think we all know what that is, but I think that people are coming around

[00:06:18] Yes.

[00:06:18] And starting to demand more Yes. And more compassion, you know?

[00:06:23] And it’s funny because just the other day I, I was speaking to one of my clients and it was just insane how. People forget the humanity that’s involved both in OB GYN medicine as well as reproductive endocrinology. It’s like, can we remember that we are building families, that this woman coming into this practice desires to be a mother?

[00:06:48] She’s not having whole removed, you know, like is. You know, and so I, I would love to hear from you a little bit more about, you know, what it’s like as somebody [00:07:00] who is a disruptor. Yes. In some ways, you know, to come at medicine with that level of compassion and really wanting to connect, to connect on a human level.

[00:07:10] Yeah, that’s a great question. And it, you know, I will say, you know, admittedly, I do a part-time position. I have a 60% appointment. I do not know if I could do it full-time in the current system because, you know, I take time, I try to figure things out. I lean into my intuition and I don’t think the current structure could hold space for me to do it the way that I need to do it full-time.

[00:07:34] So I just wanna sort of put that caveat out there. I will say, you know, in order to give good care to patients, there has to be a human connection. Like it doesn’t work any other way. And so, you know, again, like you said, this is not like a transactional experience. This is a who are you as a person, what are your goals?

[00:07:50] What are your dreams? What are your values? How, how is your relationship going? Like all those things. So I, I really think it starts at the first appointment really to like, spend enough time [00:08:00] saying, where are you from? How did you get to be in Vermont? And this is when I have my medicine hat on, right? Some people say, you know what, doc?

[00:08:06] I would never do IVF, and I just want you to know that upfront. I need to know that, you know, like some people say I want seven children. I need to know that too. Like, you know, there’s no two couples or no two individuals who are the ex. Exact same who go through this. And that’s, you know, my, my work is never boring.

[00:08:20] Like, I love getting to know people. I love getting to know, you know, makes people tick. I love getting to know what people do in their free time, but that’s just not all like personal interest. That’s because all those things help me help people make those crucial decisions for their family building. And so, you know, I don’t always get this luxury because sometimes we cross cover patients.

[00:08:37] But whenever possible, I like to start at the beginning, get to know the people and make that human connection because it helps me, because I can understand the whole picture. I understand people as whole people, but it also helps them too because it establishes a trust and a rapport that I truly believe needs to be present to allow the process to continue.

[00:08:57] So,

[00:08:58] yes. Do I get pushback? [00:09:00] Absolutely. Because do I take, like I told you in our, our previous conversation, if I sense that a woman is, is really not, you know, in a receptive state to receive an embryo, I’m not gonna put that embryo in. I like, stop the show. I’m like, wait a second, we’re praying, we’re meditating, we’re doing whatever the heck needs to happen to calm the nerves, to allow for that reason.

[00:09:19] And I, I can feel it, you know, it is like an intuitive thing. So, you know, yes, I get pushback. Oh, we we’re on a schedule, I’m like. Well, you know, if this embryo transfer doesn’t work, what kind of a schedule are we on then? You know? Yeah. So I, I, I, I think the older I get, the more confident I get, the more comfortable I am leaning into my intuition and using my leadership and just being like, this is what we’re doing.

[00:09:38] Um, you know, everybody needs to be on board for this because this is what’s in the best interest of the patient. And I think with time when people see that it works, I’ve gained the respect so that people can trust that a little bit more. I.

[00:09:50] Yeah. No, definitely. Well, and I love that because you know, I remember having gone through so many years of treatment.

[00:09:58] Yeah. I remember [00:10:00] being so terrified going in and, you know, no conversation, no discussion really about what I cared about. And it was, okay, you are in your late thirties, you have this follicle count, these are your chances. Like it was, it was. Unbelievable. Like I re, I still remember the knot in my stomach and it was, you know, that I just was sitting there and I was like, wait a minute.

[00:10:28] No. Like, there was just something, but that was all that we knew back then. Right, right. Like that, you know, pulling somebody aside, having this connected conversation, I had to go to alternative practitioners.

[00:10:41] Yeah. I believe

[00:10:42] it.

[00:10:42] To have those kinds of, of conversations. So do you think it’s changing.

[00:10:49] I do think it’s changing.

[00:10:50] So, you know, I think, I think women are changing medicine for the better. I think women who want to do this on their own terms, I think that is really what’s changing and people who care a [00:11:00] lot, you know, it is so hard to practice good medicine in the current context because, you know, we’re typically not given enough time to really get to the heart of things.

[00:11:11] You know, frequently we’re double booked, which I’m like, Hey, I’m one human. I can only do one thing at a time. Like I truly. So I’ve pushed back on that. I’m like, I cannot be in two places at once, so please do not put two things on my schedule at the same time. But it’s also advocating for more time. If a patient doesn’t speak English, I can’t see that same patient in the same amount of time.

[00:11:27] Like I feel like I’m constantly like, wait, this doesn’t work, that doesn’t work, this doesn’t work. But it is tremendously exhausting and I, I, I do think that patients are, you know, demanding more, which is, is absolutely needs to happen. And I also think that with clinicians, you know, realizing this is not a sustainable model, I think there’s also pushback from the clinician side as well.

[00:11:47] So I do think we need a whole overhaul of the system. Um. It is, it is truly, to be quite honest, it is very exhausting to try to practice good medicine in the, in the current context because there are so many [00:12:00] pressures, um, and so many restrictions that make it really hard to practice good medicine. I, it’s, it’s a depressing answer, but it’s my most honest answer.

[00:12:08] No, I don’t think it’s depressing at all. I mean, I think it’s empowering because, you know, so many people get excited. You know, we, we had had an election recently in, in, yeah. Country and everyone was all excited about IVF being covered by insurance. And I’m like, uh, are you sure about that? Are you sure about that?

[00:12:27] Because just because insurance covers something, I mean, remember insurance companies and a lot of these structures and all these models are coming based on, you know, it, it’s not the kind of scenario where you have a lot of freedom. There are algorithms, there are protocols, there are structures.

[00:12:46] Oh yeah.

[00:12:47] That

[00:12:47] drive that experience, you know?

[00:12:49] Yeah.

[00:12:50] Everyone gets to do what they wanna do, but I’m like, understand the difference between going to something that’s covered by insurance versus going to [00:13:00] somebody who is cash only.

[00:13:01] Yeah.

[00:13:02] Who will sit with you for an hour.

[00:13:04] Yeah.

[00:13:05] And you know, and it’s like, ladies, think about this.

[00:13:07] This is your freaking family. Yes, this is your healthcare. Like you don’t necessarily wanna go to the cheapest person on the block. You wanna go to somebody who is gonna take the time, take the consideration. Like, I mean, there’s it. Yeah. So that, that’s a whole nother

[00:13:24] conversation. Oh, I, there’s so much to say about that.

[00:13:26] I mean, and I will tell you, you know, New York State is a mandated state, and everyone’s like, oh, that’s so great. Insurance coverage for all. There are so many loopholes that make so many people who need the care not able to access the care. Oh my gosh. Like it’s, you know, I can’t tell you like it’s, and even like everything is based on negotiated rates.

[00:13:44] And so sometimes the insurance company’s like, sure, I’ll pay, I’ll cover your IVF, but I’m only gonna pay your doctor like. You know, $2,000 and you’re like, wait a sec. If my hairdresser said to me like, I’ll cut your hair, but every time I cut your hair I’m gonna lose $50. Like, that person could not stay open.

[00:13:57] So again, like you know, insurance coverage [00:14:00] is not the answer. Mandated states are not the answer. I will tell you, I what I said before was like, I think it’s really committed doctors, specifically female women who know what kind of care people deserve and putting that into action. Yes. Does it take personal risk and financial risk?

[00:14:14] Absolutely. But the return on investment for. Everybody is so high. I have a friend, a colleague in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Her name is Dr. Carolina Aldo. She, similarly to me was like, this clinical medicine is so ridiculous. Like nobody is getting the top-notch care like I am going to for my own practice.

[00:14:34] I’m gonna get my own team. I’m going, she, she says fertility care reimagined, which I absolutely love, and oh my gosh, like you walk in, you’re greeted, you’re cared for. Every single person, like the treatment plan is tailored to them. They’re not just a number like. I mean, even in her first year, she has helped so many people.

[00:14:51] And you know, if I were trying to get pregnant, I would go to her or somebody like her, and there’s very few people like this who actually build a [00:15:00] practice. And again, most of these are cash pay, and yet you actually get what you want, which is. A successful outcome because it’s actually patient centered and not just like, you know, here’s the factory and if you fit into the factory mold, fantastic.

[00:15:13] But if not, you know, tough luck and uh, you know, go on with your life. It’s, that’s not fair. It’s not what women deserve. So, yes, that is my answer.

[00:15:21] Yeah, and you know, it’s funny, you know, you, you brought up an interesting point because I don’t know, I, I don’t know if this has ever been studied. Maybe it hasn’t, but like, I’d be curious about outcomes.

[00:15:34] In cases where patients had a lot of advocacy and had a lot of input, versus somebody that’s just going through the McDonald’s. Sure. Like, I mean, I don’t know. I, I would be very curious because I know anecdotally in my coaching practice

[00:15:51] Yeah.

[00:15:52] The stories of women who stood up were very clear and and [00:16:00] assertive with their team.

[00:16:02] Yeah.

[00:16:03] And said, this is what I want. I can’t explain it, but this is on my heart. Yes. I believe this is right for me. Those women hold babies today.

[00:16:13] They do.

[00:16:15] And like the women who ab abdicate their power

[00:16:18] Yeah.

[00:16:19] Tend to go through this thing where they just hold onto that, you know what it is they really want.

[00:16:24] They keep allowing themselves to be treated in a way that doesn’t include their own intuition. Yes. And then continue to struggle. Like I know that anecdotally you’ve probably seen it too,

[00:16:36] day in and day out, day in and day out. It is. There is something, I wish I could bottle it up. You know, I think, and that’s why I love your work so much, is because you help people find their intuition.

[00:16:47] You help people find their voices. You know, so many of us women, it’s this innate gift that we have, but we shut it out over time. We learn how to turn it off, and we cannot go through this process unless we can [00:17:00] reconnect with that. And, and find our voice. And I just read your book. I’m obsessed with it.

[00:17:04] Thank you so much for recommending it. It is actually, as an aside, has changed how I’m viewing my entire life right now, which is a whole con the conversation. Oh my God. Um, and to be clear, I’m not even trying to get pregnant. So it’s like it’s, you have so much brilliance and wisdom and I’m so grateful.

[00:17:18] Thank you for writing that book. I just like light bulb. The universe brought us together for so many reasons. Yeah. Um, but, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s tuning into that feminine. That desire. And then using the masculine to execute.

[00:17:32] Yes.

[00:17:32] Right.

[00:17:33] Well, and think about how like when women come to you mm-hmm. And for.

[00:17:39] For your, the work that you do both in medicine and in the work that you do outside of medicine. Think about how different that experience is when women are educated and primed.

[00:17:52] Yes.

[00:17:54] I’m like, this is why I want women to, you know, to, to do this work. Because then you go to Dr. [00:18:00] Erica

[00:18:00] Yes.

[00:18:00] With some sense of what’s true for you.

[00:18:03] That’s right. And then two of you, you can create this alchemy, this really beautiful dance that. Positions you to call in this family. I mean, I love this and I love what you do so much because of this ability to like yeah. Be, have a foot in both worlds.

[00:18:20] It’s empowerment. That’s what it is, is empowerment.

[00:18:23] And you know, I think you said like the people who, where it’s not working. It’s not working. They’ve given away their power. They, they haven’t found their voices. They’re just sort of going through the motions, but it’s not working because they’re not, they’re not standing in their power. Right. It’s empowered choices based in science and love and values and intuition, like all of it together.

[00:18:43] Well, and, and I don’t believe science and intuition spirituality have to be separate. Like, what if they’re all together? Like, what if, what if it, you know, we’ve been conned into thinking they’re two different things.

[00:18:57] Correct.

[00:18:59] And I think that when [00:19:00] a woman comes in and is receptive, ’cause that’s another thing like you were talking about Yeah.

[00:19:04] Receptivity,

[00:19:06] you know, being able to stop and, and pray before transferring this embryo and, you know, do the, and all this stuff. It’s like, hey, let’s not forget one, you’re a woman. Yeah. You have this feminine power. Two, there’s something more happening here than just an egg and a sperm coming together.

[00:19:24] Let’s stop and let’s have some reverence here. Yeah. And be in this moment.

[00:19:29] Yeah. Hmm. I will tell you like. With almost a hundred percent certainty. I can tell if an embryo is gonna take before I leave the, or, like it’s, it’s so interesting, like, and, and people who are intuitive, they can feel it too. Like my, my nurses and everything.

[00:19:44] Like, it’s so interesting. There’s this moment where you put the embryo in you. You’re waiting for the lab to check the catheter to make sure the embryo, ’cause you know, they’re microscopic. You can’t see them on an ultrasound, but like, there’s this moment, and I, I always take that moment to pray, but I like tune in.

[00:19:56] I’m like, is this gonna work? Is this not gonna work? And, you know, it’s, it’s [00:20:00] amazing. I, I just, it’s so fascinating because the wild thing is that embryo should not implant for at least 24 to 48 hours at least. And it, it’s just, it’s tuning in and, and feeling the energetic forces, which is why I, you know, when people ask me like, how does coaching help?

[00:20:15] How does stress reduction help? I say, we need to align all the vectors so that you are receptive to this process. You know, you could have all the science in the world, but if even at the level of your uterus, something, doubt, negativity, self-blame, shame, any of those things is blocking it. It’s not gonna take, so we need to open the channels for this to happen.

[00:20:37] And you know, I call my, I mean my business is called Love and Science and I actually had another coach who said, Erica, maybe it’s love as science. And I think that’s what you do too. Isn’t that interesting to think about?

[00:20:49] I think, you know, I think that’s brilliant. Yeah. And I think it’s fantastic that like, you know, we cannot physiologically separate the mind and the body.

[00:20:58] No. People think that [00:21:00] you have all kinds of garbage going on up here, but it’s not playing out. In the body, you know, and it, it’s, it’s wild to me that, you know, you can be hammering on about this. You can tell people like, here’s all of the evidence of this. But I think that we have been. So conditioned to be afraid of that side of ourselves.

[00:21:25] Mm-hmm. Or see it as woo woo. We don’t see like the, how these things connect. And I think women are paying a, a huge price for it.

[00:21:33] I think so too. And it, it is hard. I mean, I think you’re right. There is some sort of cultural, um, uphill that we have to sort of navigate because I just say to my patients and my clients, I’m like, you know, I don’t need you to believe this.

[00:21:46] Fully. I just need you to lean into it. Like I need the door to be open. You know? ’cause it’s like this, this, this ness or whatever it is. I think people discount it and it’s like, I promise you there’s a magic in it. If you can just lean [00:22:00] in, it will help you so much.

[00:22:03] Oh yeah. Well, think about it though. Like it’s, it’s probably the energy that people feel walking into your office, right?

[00:22:10] You feel that energy with all of your expectation, possibility. High vibration. Yeah. People can feel that. Like, so, you know, you can walk into a room, you’re like, man, who died? You know, like everybody can feel it. So it’s like, yeah. Ladies, that thing is real. That feeling that you have been separated from for Yeah.

[00:22:32] Who knows. There’s a zillion reasons why. Now you get to welcome that because coming back to the feminine, remember, conceiving is all about receiving. I hear, I say ladies all the time, but it’s, it’s from your feminine. If you’re trying to get pregnant like a man, you are going to create results that you probably don’t want.

[00:22:52] That’s right. Yeah.

[00:22:55] You definitely know how to marshal the ma, the masculine and the feminine [00:23:00] because your energy is very feminine. But I can also feel that like there’s a masculine when Dr. Erica’s gonna go do her thing, but she’s gonna go execute. She’s got it.

[00:23:09] Yeah.

[00:23:10] I mean, I, I think that’s really masterful, like that’s really a cool thing.

[00:23:15] What was it like for you to. Really step into this because it, let’s be honest, Erica, we’re both fucking weird.

[00:23:25] Yeah.

[00:23:25] Okay. We’re both a little weird.

[00:23:28] Totally.

[00:23:28] And coming from my legal background, weird is not okay. And my from your medical background where it’s not okay either.

[00:23:36] Nope, nope.

[00:23:37] You’re stepping into something.

[00:23:39] I mean, what was that like for you? Because I think that your personal transformation and your willingness to go in that direction really makes what you do just on fire.

[00:23:51] Yeah, that’s a great question. And it, I mean, it’s not like a light bulb switched. I think it’s been an evolution over time and you know, it’s, it’s interesting, like I think sometimes the hardest things that [00:24:00] happen to us transform us.

[00:24:01] And so I will say. I have always adored my patients. Like there’s this, like this human connection. Like I said, I love working with women. I love seeing them. You know, I think that’s like 90% of what’s wrong with medicine today is that people are not being seen from who they are. And so I’ve always thankfully had that innate ability to connect with people, to see them for who they are and to have compassion for their situation.

[00:24:21] So I think it kind of has to start there because I don’t think anything else will flow unless there’s that ability to connect with people. So, you know, papa to my parents, like, what? Whatever it is that that gave me that I’m so grateful. Right. But I also feel like I’ve also never fit in either. I’ve never fit in in like any place I’ve ever been.

[00:24:38] And so with that, I think comes a self-reflection of like, who am I? Like where does my worth come from? And like what is actually belonging, right? And so you kind of have to see yourself. In order to be able to see another person. So I am an introvert, I’m an empath. I do a lot of journaling and all those things.

[00:24:57] And you know, I will tell you, I went through my training, check, check, check. [00:25:00] Did everything I was supposed to, always got like the highest honors and then, you know, I unexpectedly had a divorce. And I will tell you that was a true turning point because I think that unleashed something within me that had been dormant.

[00:25:14] Like I said, not a light switch, but like an evolution. And that is when I really started to find my voice because I had completely forgotten who I was at my core. You know, I couldn’t even go to, and I also sound so pathetic when I think about it. Again, no judgment zone, but like so different from who I am right now.

[00:25:29] I could not even go to a restaurant and like figure out what I wanted on the menu because. I was just like, I think I just had so much else going on. I’m like, oh, whatever they want, that’s fine. Whatever My former spouse, you know, thinks is like, I just had given away so much power and I knew I was like in a swamp at, you know, this death zone, but I didn’t know how to get out of it.

[00:25:47] And thankfully, you know, there was infidelity, which, you know, according to my Catholic upbringing, gave me permission to leave the marriage. And you know, I say that, I mean it was truly a gift because something super dramatic had to happen. And [00:26:00] that’s when I was like, wait, who am I? What is my voice? How am I gonna do this me medi medicine thing as a single parent?

[00:26:06] Like, like who are my patients? What are their, what is their suffering? How is my suffering connected to their suffering? How can I help them find their voice? And so that’s really when I got into coaching because I was like, okay, like my parenting is really, leaves a lot to be desired. I had, you know, I had two neurodiverse kids at that point, didn’t realize they were neurodiverse.

[00:26:24] Like, you know, all this searching and, and questioning it all kind of comes together when you’re talking about the human experience. So I got into parent coaching. Found this amazing, amazing parent coach who really helped me lead with empathy, like parent with empathy. And that was a whole new concept for me.

[00:26:39] It was, you know, I, but then we can’t be empathetic to other people unless we’re empathetic to ourselves. So that’s when I really started being like more self-compassionate, you know, this, this, like this masculine, like, you know, just sort of, and I was like a, you know, state champion runner. Like all, like, I’ve always been super hard on myself to get what I needed to get.

[00:26:57] And this was this first sort of, wait a sec, like [00:27:00] slow down. Take a Sunday, be gentle with yourself. Um, nurture yourself like this feminine, like take a hot bath one holiday. I didn’t have my kids, I just spent an entire day in the bathtub and I’m like, you know what, like again, I don’t think that hot baths are gonna save us, but I think we, I do think that we have to lean into like, what does my body need in this moment?

[00:27:19] I really do think it’s about wrestling with my own. Wounds, pain points, suffering, figuring out how to heal myself and get out of it. And again, not in isolation. This all happens in community. That’s another important piece of this. Um, but really wrestling with that to say, okay, how can I find my voice?

[00:27:35] That’s when I started laughing with my patients, crying with my patients, giving them hugs. Even during COVID, I’m like, F that. Like this patient needs a hug. We’re giving her a hug. Um, and, and that’s when I started to come into my power and that’s really when the magic started to happen.

[00:27:48] Yeah. I mean, that doesn’t surprise me at all.

[00:27:50] Yeah. I mean, I, I think that some of the best feminine leaders. Are the ones that are willing to be honest about their own [00:28:00] transformation.

[00:28:00] Yeah.

[00:28:00] Right. For sure. I mean, nobody wants just some, you know, perfection guru. Like we all have, there’s always a moment, I think, in every one of our lives

[00:28:10] Yeah.

[00:28:10] Where there’s a pivot point where we’re either gonna turn the pain into purpose or it’s just going, we’re gonna perpetuate it.

[00:28:17] That’s right.

[00:28:18] And, and I think it’s, it’s fascinating to really witness that. Humanity. Yeah. Because then you come to your practice and what you’re doing from like, not, not this separation that, okay, this is who patient number what, yeah. You know, like, no, no, no, no, no. We’re, you know, even if this is the only time I see this person, I’m gonna have a real connection with ’em.

[00:28:43] That’s right.

[00:28:45] I think that something changes within us as women too, when, when we start to, I don’t know if we’ll ever fully understand the depth of our power, but I do believe that when we start to be open to it

[00:28:59] mm-hmm.

[00:28:59] And [00:29:00] start exploring it, I, I just think that there’s something magical that starts to happen in our lives.

[00:29:06] I mean, it, it just, it was when I was hearing you say like, you didn’t know what you wanted at a restaurant,

[00:29:11] you know, and it was like, yeah.

[00:29:13] And, and it’s like, it can be that basic. Yeah. But it really speaks to how separate we can become

[00:29:22] Yes.

[00:29:23] From the truth in our lives. And the, you know, and the way that translates into fertility is, you know, I, I think this fertility journey, it, it takes us to places that if we’re not careful.

[00:29:37] You know, if we’re not able to really connect with what’s happening, like, Hey, I’m not just wanting to have a baby. This is, you know, this is part of my purpose. Like I feel like my pur, I mean, this is why I think a lot of women panic Yeah. When they’re hearing these numbers. Because yes, the numbers are frightening, but I think what people are speaking to more.

[00:29:56] You know, at the core is your value as a [00:30:00] human being, your vision for your life. And it’s like, I think if PE more people understood that, then they might speak with more compassion. I

[00:30:08] think so too, and I don’t know, I, I, I, I always ask myself the question, is it because like people don’t have compassion in the first place, or is it that they had it and then they get burnt out by the system?

[00:30:20] I don’t, I don’t know what the answer is to that. Um, but I, I don’t think that anything less than compassion is acceptable. I just don’t think it is. Um. You know, and I’ll also say like, you know, I think we have to call each other out. You know, if, if, and we have to also be our own barometers, but we have to, to, you know, if, if a colleague is, is sort of seeming like they’re having a rough patch, we have to check in on them and be like, Hey, you’ve seen a little down lately.

[00:30:44] You know, is everything okay? Is there anything I can do? How are you really doing? Because I think a lot of, you know, female doctors specifically are suffering in silence. You know, maybe some of them have additional pressures like sick parents or even new motherhood themselves, and [00:31:00] it’s really hard to navigate this.

[00:31:01] The system is not built for anybody who has anything extra going on in life. So, you know, I think there’s that. I also think, you know, to your point about sort of how do you remain weird and have it be okay, I think that you have to kind of not care what people think. Um, and you know, if, if I cared what people think, I would not do like most of the things I do because I’ve realized that to be my most authentic self self.

[00:31:25] Like some people are just, are not gonna love that, and that’s just gotta be okay. You know? And so I, I would imagine, you know, the same thing for you, like I’m recovering people pleaser, so that’s, you know, an accomplishment I think. Um, that I can sort of live my life, do what I need to do and say, well, you know, there’s always gonna be haters.

[00:31:41] And if they don’t like it, I’m just not for them. You know, that’s just the way it goes. Uh, but that allows me to stand in my power without being afraid. Oh, am I, am I gonna offend them? Oh, am I gonna be too much? Or whatever. I don’t believe in too much, by the way. Like, maybe I’m too much for you. I, but like, but we have to, like, this is the thing is we have to, unless we [00:32:00] can unlock somebody else’s, like in.

[00:32:02] The unlocking of somebody else’s authenticity, giving them full permission to be themselves. We have to be ourselves first. We have to be vision boards for those people. And so everyone’s journey is a little bit different, but you know when people come into their power, they’re being most authentically themselves.

[00:32:17] And so that’s part of this journey is helping people to do that. When as women we’re sort of like, oh, wait, what external mark do I have to make? How can I turn myself into a pretzel to be that instead of like. Who am I actually, and how is that going to be even greater than what somebody else’s expectations were for me?

[00:32:34] Right? Mm-hmm. And that’s, that’s motherhood, right? That’s, that’s how we are become, be, become parents, and that that’s how we become the best parents we can be as well. And break that intergenerational trauma that you, you talk about in your book.

[00:32:45] Yeah, and I really think that, I tell women all the time, look, your journey is just the beginning.

[00:32:52] Yeah.

[00:32:52] This journey is preparation for what it means to be in motherhood because, yeah, I mean, honestly, like, I [00:33:00] honestly believe that my son made me wait so that I could transform and become the woman that was worthy of being his mother, because honestly, like I shudder. To think about how I would’ve mothered him and all of the brokenness.

[00:33:19] Yeah, I mean like, look, nobody’s perfect, right? But when I think about where I was in the spectrum of my own evolution and transformation, he would’ve been in daycare all day. He would’ve had a mother who was exhausted, did not know how to care for herself, you know, was a people pleaser, would say yes, just to, you know, feel significant.

[00:33:42] All of these things, like all of my external, uh, I guess barometers for my own success would’ve pulled me away from him.

[00:33:51] Yeah.

[00:33:52] And I’m like. Ladies this time, this journey, like, and it’s hard for people to hear this. Like a lot of people will say, oh, well you’re, you can [00:34:00] say that now that you have your son.

[00:34:02] But I’m like, no, I am telling you from the bottom of my heart. Yeah, take this time. I. Take this time, this, this journey is not a curse. Mm-hmm. It’s a blessing because you’re gonna address health issues.

[00:34:14] Yeah.

[00:34:15] You’re going to address personal issues. You’re going to address relationship issues. You know what your purpose is like.

[00:34:22] So much. It’s so big that I think that if our babies came immediately, we wouldn’t have the opportunity That’s right. To address those things. So, and you know, and the other thing is a lot of women get. Trapped in this comparison thing, and it’s like, just as you were saying,

[00:34:40] yeah,

[00:34:40] everyone’s journey is different and

[00:34:43] yeah,

[00:34:43] and just own your path.

[00:34:45] Like if you just did that, you’d probably reduce your stress by at least half, you know, and

[00:34:52] just, that’s right.

[00:34:53] Start to live in your own lane.

[00:34:55] That’s right. And I, I love how you say that you’re, you know, the soul is waiting, right? [00:35:00] The soul is out there waiting and then, you know, we evolve and when our frequency raises, that’s when it’s like, okay, now it’s time.

[00:35:08] Now it’s time.

[00:35:09] And it’s effortless. Like it, that, that’s probably when, I mean, I, I think it would be interesting, I mean, well, you’re somebody who can sense whether or not it’s gonna work, but I think it would be interesting just kind of like anecdotally to kind of note like as you get to know your patients, like what was her transformation like, was her, yeah.

[00:35:28] Did you see any intersection between the changes that she made and, and her outcome? I mean. I think bottom line though is like this can help women look at their own healthcare in a different way. Yeah. It’s not just the 4,000 supplements that are on your kitchen counter. Right. It’s right. It’s more than that because the supplements, yeah, they’re probably important in for, for some people and in whatever the situation is, but it’s the act of love that you are [00:36:00] engaging in by remaining compliant to that, you know, to that willingness to take your supplements on time, to continue to invest in yourself, to do all those things.

[00:36:11] I think it’s the act of love. More than it is the the thing per se.

[00:36:16] Mm-hmm.

[00:36:17] Right? Like when somebody comes to you, seeks out Dr. Erica because they know they’re gonna have compassionate care, you know? Or they go and do whatever, you know, improve diet. It’s all about the act of love and self love. Yeah.

[00:36:33] That’s right. And I think the fertility journey is a love story, you know, and I, I just say it’s a love story. And, and some people say, well, it took me eight years. And I’m like, and imagine like what you’re gonna tell that little one, like, you know, mommy and daddy loved you so much that we kept trying, we, you know, we knew that you were ours.

[00:36:49] Um, you know, and, and even people who use donor gametes, I say, the story you tell is a love story. And you know, it, it’s, I think. One thing that you said I wanna [00:37:00] highlight is like, you know, when we put ourselves in the Victor role, like why me? Why is this fertility thing happening? Like, you know, poor me, we become victims.

[00:37:07] We give away our power. But when we say this is a choice, I choose to take these supplements. I choose to show up at my doctor’s office, and I ask my clients all the time, what energy do you wanna show up? You know, like how do you wanna walk through that door? And I think that really helps raise people’s vibrations as well, to be more receptive, to be more loving, to say like, everything I’m doing is an act of love.

[00:37:29] And, you know, loving and letting go. Those are two sides of the same coin, you know, love and grief. Tho those don’t exist in isolation. And so this is like the, and I, I’m getting sort of chills talking about this. Like this is part of our existential experience as human beings. And, and this is just a taste of all the love and loss that may come to us, you know, so it’s like loving, letting go, grieving, um, doing hard things.

[00:37:55] You know, we, we show up with love every single day. And the question is, for you and your fertility journey, how [00:38:00] are you showing up with love, love for yourself, love for your spouse, if you have one love for the little one who’s gonna come and, and keep choosing love every single day.

[00:38:08] Yeah. I, I think that’s so beautiful.

[00:38:10] And I think that the other part of this is when women understand, look, this is a process. Yeah. But this process is also positioning me

[00:38:21] Yeah.

[00:38:22] To be whole. Before this baby comes, because I think the other thing that I observe is, is people get so fixated. On. I just wanna have the baby just give me the baby.

[00:38:33] And it’s like, woo. Slow down, sister. Slow down. It’s not about, it’s not about right. Right. I mean, it, it starts to, there’s this weird chasing energy that starts Yes. To happen that is also indicative of powerlessness. And that’s not what you wanna show up in the office with.

[00:38:53] No, no. And it’s a little bit like dating.

[00:38:56] Right. They right. They say like, when, when you sort of, [00:39:00] because I think it’s all about attachment to the outcome. Like that’s one thing that I talk, you know, to you, you know, you can want something and you, we need to want something really badly and we need to let go of exactly how that happens. The timeline, the, you know, the exact way because the universe source, God, you know, what everyone wanna say has a.

[00:39:19] Different has its own plan, right? And, and everything has to be aligned. And so I think some people go, uh, I’m doing this this month and this has to happen. And like when people tell me that story, I’m like, well, it is most certainly not gonna happen under those conditions because we put our own restrictions.

[00:39:32] We limit something that is actually limitless. So you’re right, it’s effortless. You know, we need to align ourselves with those things, but it really is about the energy and that’s the MINDBODY connection. And I, I think that’s what you help people do so well, is really get back in that alignment.

[00:39:49] So let’s talk about this, because I think the, the group of women that most need to hear this is women in their forties.

[00:39:57] Yes.

[00:39:58] Because a lot of [00:40:00] women are, you know, they get to this apex in their career. They’re, you know, or maybe they waited and I hate to use the term, but it’s just chronological, they. Later in life they find a partner. I don’t, I don’t. I don’t think it’s later. I think it’s right on time.

[00:40:14] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:40:15] But later they meet somebody later.

[00:40:18] And then the first thing that the two of them are thinking about is, okay, our family, and then they start to hear these really dismal, I. Terrifying statistics.

[00:40:27] Right.

[00:40:28] You know, what would you want women to understand from your perspective when it comes to that? Because it, you know, if you don’t have any context

[00:40:37] Yeah.

[00:40:37] Like, we’ve all heard that, you know, the, the urban legend, that it’s so much harder in your forties. I don’t know that it’s harder ’cause I did it. I, I think it’s just different.

[00:40:48] It’s different. Yeah. Well, I think the first thing is to understand, like, understand our bodies, right? And just sort of understand like who we are, how they work.

[00:40:58] You know, many people don’t [00:41:00] even understand that we go through these monthly cycles, we ovulate, you know, the egg is released. It may or may not get fertilized by the sperm, and then, you know, if it does, then that embryo implant. Then we’re pregnant. If not, then we’re, we’re not. And so I think empowering women to understand their bodies is really important because if we don’t understand that, then that’s, you know, a huge disservice.

[00:41:21] I also think that understanding the importance of lifestyle, um, is really important too. And I don’t mean just like supplements and all that stuff, but like many, many, many people are sort of. Doing things that put vectors in the wrong direction. And so there is a small group of my patients and clients who are like doing all the things, exercising, you know, eating right most of the time, all those things.

[00:41:43] But I think that a lot of it is that people have not made room in their lives for a baby. Hmm. And they’re working 80 hours a week. They are stressed to the max. Like they don’t know how they’re gonna get to their fertility appointments. Um, along with that [00:42:00] maybe comes some unhealthy eating because who has time to cook and eat healthy?

[00:42:03] And who’s sleeping? What’s sleep? You know, answering emails at 2:00 AM and, and then all this partner discord that can happen and we have to have sex now and, and, and all of that stuff. And so, like, again, back to the dating world analogy, they say like, if you’re trying to meet somebody. You have to clear out things from your house to be able to make room for a new, a new soul, a new partner.

[00:42:21] You know, you, you need to sort of buy things in twos, kind of anticipating of what’s to come. And I really do think there’s this intentionality. Okay, if I am preparing my life to be a mother. I need to declutter the stuff that is not going to align with new motherhood at this stage of my life. And, and like you said, it’s tough because a lot of these women are at the pinnacle of their career.

[00:42:43] They don’t know, you know, what it would look like to step down now. Um, but it is imperative to say like, you know, okay, like, who am I? Like how is my stress? How is my sleep? How is my relationship? You know, could this lifestyle bring in a soul or not? [00:43:00] If the answer is no, then I think it’s a real wake up call to say, okay, let’s make some changes.

[00:43:06] Because we’re welcoming a soul. We’re not just like, you know, is the PO pregnancy test positive? It’s like this, this, this needs to be aligned for this all to happen. And so I think that’s a big key is um, is looking at the big picture. Yeah.

[00:43:21] Yeah. No, that’s so smart. And I think that, yeah. It’s, it’s funny, I mean, like, when I look back on it in retrospect now, I just ha, I just kind of chuckle and I have so much compassion for that version of me that was like, I know, hey, I’m, I’m trying, you know, hardcore sexual assault cases against, you know, that involve pregnant women.

[00:43:39] You know, I’m, I’m handling a homicide as a second chair. I’m doing all this other stuff. Why wasn’t I get getting pregnant? It’s like. I’m, I’m prosecuting all these cases, working insane hours, going and watching forensic interviews of child survivors of sexual assault. Do you think my body was receptive?

[00:43:59] [00:44:00] No. No, no, no. There’s no way.

[00:44:02] But it’s like nobody was talking about that, Erica. I mean, nobody I know about that. Well,

[00:44:07] you’re a trailblazer. You had to figure this out for yourself to be able to help people.

[00:44:10] But what you’re talking about is like, really? Women taking this opportunity in their lives to look at themselves from a global perspective.

[00:44:21] Yeah. And remember that like, whew, there’s this feminine part of me that wants to nurture,

[00:44:27] yeah.

[00:44:27] Wants to love, wants to have a nest in my home, you know, wants to bake sourdough, you know, or you know, these kinds of things. But those aren’t wrong and that, and that those feminine pursuits are just as valid.

[00:44:42] They’re just. Different.

[00:44:44] They are different. They are different. And you know, I’ve, I’ve one recently who like went and bought like baby clothes before she even knew if she was pregnant. I was like, that is brilliant. You know, that is saying like, I believe in this, I trust my body to do this. Like, you know, we, I’m going to have you know this and, [00:45:00] and, and I’m welcoming it in.

[00:45:02] Before it’s even there. So I think that’s important. I, I want to make sure we talk about lab values too. So again, you know, in this context, this is, you know, not medical advice. It’s my perspective. However, so many people are told, oh my goodness, your A MH is undetectable. Oh my gosh. Your FSH is high. Oh my goodness.

[00:45:19] All those things tell us is that fertility treatments in an office setting are less likely to work. Those are not fertility markers. It’s very, very important to understand this. And so when people are told, oh my gosh, like this is the end of the world, sure. The brain, the conversation between and the brain and the ovaries, we can get a window into that.

[00:45:38] And if that’s a stressed conversation, that’s important to understand. Right. But so many people conceive with values that they’ve been told are like, oh no, you’re near menopause. This is never gonna happen. All it takes is one good egg meeting, a good sperm and implanting. And so when I see somebody with sort of concerning lab [00:46:00] values, sometimes I say to them, actually, less is more.

[00:46:04] Less is more. Why would we stress your body through this whole darn process to get one egg, to put it in a lab setting, to fertilize it, to pray that it grows, to then put that embryo back inside. As long as we know the tubes are open and there’s good sperm, which again, if you’re a little older, maybe get those checked on the sooner side so you’re not sort of wondering.

[00:46:24] But less is more. Less is more. Mm-hmm. And so I think aligning the mind and the body, and again, I’m not opposed to fertility treatments who are, you know, for people who are in their forties, but the, it’s, it’s interesting because it kind of, the, the lines start to approach each other. When does trying at home and when do fertility treatments confer a benefit?

[00:46:44] At some point in the forties it’s like. There’s no benefit to fertility treatments. They’re expensive, they’re stressful, they’re hard on the body, takes time. You know, really focus on yourself and your body and what you need. And that’s part of what I think we need to do better as fertility specialists is [00:47:00] IVF is not the answer for everybody.

[00:47:02] You know? Sure. If your husband has no sperm, like that’s a whole other issue altogether. But if you’re 42 and you’re like, you know, my FSH is 25 and okay. We know your Fs, FSH is 25. Like, let’s see what we can optimize and see what happens and, and then go from there. So I, you know, I, I take the value seriously, especially for people who really know that they wanna do fertility treatment inside the office.

[00:47:24] And so it’s like, okay, well if your image is low, maybe stop smoking and stop smoking anyway. ’cause by the way, that’s not good for fertility, but I really do believe that less is more for so many women. And I don’t think we say that enough.

[00:47:37] I think that’s really something that women need to hear and I, I think it’s interesting just ’cause some of the things that I’m seeing out there.

[00:47:44] I mean, I, I think that’s where we’re headed

[00:47:46] Yeah.

[00:47:47] Is, is doing more of the at home type of care.

[00:47:53] Yeah.

[00:47:54] Seeking IVF and these other interventions strategically.

[00:47:59] Yeah. [00:48:00]

[00:48:00] You know, and using them, I mean, they’re, they’re brilliant tools. They’re wonderful, and they, they’ve helped so many people.

[00:48:06] Yeah.

[00:48:06] But to not forget that the success in an IVF cycle, even if you choose that, it starts way before.

[00:48:15] Yeah.

[00:48:15] That cycle, it starts with who you’re seeing, what you’re feeling, your body with, what your home is like. Like it is this bigger thing as we close this out. Sure. You know, I really would love from your perspective here, just some parting words that you want the women listening to this. I mean, we’re gonna link your website, all of your contact information in our show notes.

[00:48:37] Mm-hmm.

[00:48:37] But as a practitioner and as somebody who sees this day in and day out. What are some words of wisdom that you would give women who are maybe getting tired or losing, uh, some tenacity and are, are really wanting to, I don’t know, get a kick in the pants? What would you say to them?

[00:48:58] Gosh, so [00:49:00] I, I think the most reassuring, so first of all, I would say, you know, this is not your fault.

[00:49:06] Right. This is not your fault. Like people hold so much shame and blame and regret and all those things. Like let those things go. We are in the present moment. All we can do is move forward. Give yourself grace. That’s the first thing, right? So just really release those sort of internally oriented negative feelings because they feel crappy and they don’t serve us at all.

[00:49:28] So that’s the first thing. And if you’re looking for a resource, I really do recommend Dr. Kristen Neff. Um, her mindful, you know, self-compassion workbook is fantastic. I actually like the workbook better than I like the book itself. ’cause it, you know, makes you stop and do the exercises. But like we all need radical self-compassion as a necessary ingredient in this process.

[00:49:46] You know, interestingly, align with your work, uh, Roseanne, she talks about, you know, the masculine part of self-compassion and the feminine part of self-compassion and all of it. So all of it. So self-compassion is absolutely necessary. Step one. Then I [00:50:00] would say people who want to become parents will become parents.

[00:50:04] Like you said, the desire is in your heart for a reason, and so I don’t know exactly what that will look like for you and your situation, but you are resourceful, you are loving, you are resilient. You know, you are on this path for a reason and so honor that. Honor that, find your team. If you’re not aligned with your REI guess what, I’m sure there’s a beautiful REI who will serve you and, and love you into this, you know, into this pregnancy, into this being.

[00:50:33] And so there is a pathway for you. You gotta tune into your intuition, but, but believe in your ability to become a parent and the rest will fall into place.

[00:50:44] Hmm. That’s so beautiful. And, you know, I think it, it’s not like I, I think people need to listen to that multiple times. Yeah. Because what you’re saying is true.

[00:50:55] Yeah.

[00:50:55] You know, in, in over 10 plus years, almost 11 now of doing this [00:51:00] work, there’s not a single person that I. Have met who did the work and made the decision to be a parent that didn’t find a way. The only women that get to the end of their journey without their baby are the ones that gave up

[00:51:18] exactly.

[00:51:19] Exactly. Yeah. And that’s, I think where coaching helps because, you know, it, it, it makes me so sad when, when people say like, oh, it was too hard. It was too much. It was, you know, too expensive. And, and people stop. I mean, they stop before their journey’s complete. And it’s like, you know, let us help you stay in the game.

[00:51:38] You know, if, if there’s parts of this that feel unmanageable, like. Sometimes you gotta call in additional supports to help with that. But again, the desire is in your heart for a reason. You have a pathway to parenthood, you are resourceful. You know, we will help you figure it out. It’s just, you know, day by day, hour by hour, find your tribe and you’ve got this.

[00:51:57] Yes. Well, thank you so much, Dr. [00:52:00] Erica. I’m sending you so much love. I’ve just thank you. Forward to this. Likewise. So it’s so great. We’ll put all the information in our show notes. Thank you for your generosity. Thank you, you, and we look forward to having you back.

[00:52:13] Yes, a hundred percent. Until the next time.

[00:52:15] Loves wasn’t my conversation

[00:52:16] with Dr. Bove Absolutely fantastic and eye-opening. See, doing IVF does not have to be stiff and all about statistics and what happened 10 years ago. You can approach science with love. And look, as you heard from Dr. B’s mouth, the mind and the body work together. This is not woo woo anymore.

[00:52:37] This is a system. The mind and the body work together. And look, if you are not currently making mindset your priority and you’re not getting the result you want time to change that up baby. Go to my website www.frombabytobaby.com and apply for an interview there. The Fearlessly Fertile Methodists help women around the world finally make their [00:53:00] mom dreams come true, and their results speak for themselves.

[00:53:03] So go to my website www.frommaybetobaby.com. We work with women that are committed to getting and staying pregnant in the next 12 months and say hell yes to covering their bases, mind and body. Till next time, change your mindset. Change your results.

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After 7 years TTC, 7 miscarriages, 7 failed IVF cycles, and even a surrogacy journey that went off the rails, Yasmine still got her miracle: she became pregnant naturally in her 40s (at 43). In this episode, she shares what changed—how she rebuilt belief after relentless loss, why she stopped letting doctors and statistics write the ending, and the mindset shifts that helped her finally get and stay pregnant. If you need proof that your past doesn’t get to decide your future, turn this one up.

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[00:00:00] Hey, gorgeous. If you want success on your fertility journey, you’ve gotta have the mindset for it. It’s time to kick fear, negativity, doubt, shame, jealousy in the whole clown car of low vibe, fertility, journey BS to the curb. I’m your host, Roseanne Austin. Fertility Mindset Master, former prosecutor and recovering type a control freak, perfectionist.

[00:00:20] I use the power of minds. That to get pregnant naturally and have my baby boy at 43. Despite years of fertility treatment failure, I help women across the globe beat the odds on their fertility journey just like I did. Get ready for a quick hit of confidence, joy, feminine, bad assery, and loads of hell.

[00:00:37] Yes. For your fertility journey, it’s time to get

[00:00:39] fearless, baby fearlessly fertile. Let’s do this.

[00:00:44] Welcome to the Fearlessly Fertile Podcast, episode three 16 From seven years. Seven failed IVFs, seven miscarriages to pregnant naturally in her forties. Yasmine’s story loves. I’m [00:01:00] so excited to be here with you this week because we have yet another testimony of triumph from one of my miracle mamas.

[00:01:08] And these stories are so important because one of the most powerful ways in which we learn is by hearing other people’s experiences. See, statistics don’t fucking matter really. Not really. It’s truly from other people’s experiences that we can gain inspiration to see the truth that success on this journey is possible.

[00:01:35] Because when you hear Yasmine’s story, the cards were stacked against her. She even had a doctor flat out tell her not to try. Can you imagine the hubris? Well, that’s actually what happened. And so you are going to hear how Yasmine went from a place of just pretty much being ready to give up. To standing firm for her daughter that she [00:02:00] even named before she was born.

[00:02:03] So I hope that you listen to this episode at least three times and gather all of the goodness that she has to share because look. When you think and take action like a woman who succeeds on this journey, you make time, your diagnosis, the statistics, and your past fucking irrelevant. So here is my conversation with the glorious, beautiful, hilarious mama.

[00:02:30] Yasmine, we’re gonna jump right in. Yasmine, can you believe that we’re having this conversation?

[00:02:37] No, absolutely not. No. Uh, no. Absolutely not. I can’t,

[00:02:43] well, you know, but I have to ask you to do what you just did a few moments ago because it was so glorious. It was so Mia’s mom worthy.

[00:02:59] [00:03:00] It’s pretty crazy

[00:03:01] woman. Okay, so we, we have to start this from the top because in addition to asking, can you believe we’re here, I also love to ask like, how did you even find yourself here? Like, how did you find yourself on this journey? And ultimately, how did we meet? That’s, that’s how we’ll start it.

[00:03:25] Uh, so what’s, I was in Bali, like so many Australians on your podcast. Um, I was in Bali and I. Your, something came up with your fertility program. It just popped up and I said, oh, I’ll have a, I’ll have a listen to this. And it was pretty immediate. The first, first time I listened to one of your podcasts, I felt this immediate connection and I hadn’t felt that way about anything I had been doing because I’d been on this journey for seven years and I just kind of went [00:04:00] like, oh, I was a bit bit over it at that point.

[00:04:02] And you just kind of broke through all this other noise that I had. And I remember sitting there looking at the pool going, oh, this is achievable. I can do this. And my and my mindset completely changed in the matter of minutes. And then, then I started getting really hooked and I listened to all of these different women’s stories over and over and over again, like just all day long while I was in Bali.

[00:04:28] And then I got home and. No, I don’t even think I got home. I was in Bali and I applied to, um, to the program, and then by the time I got back to Sydney, you had called me and that’s when we, when I met you. Yeah.

[00:04:47] You know, it’s, it’s crazy how. When the right thing comes around, it just clicks, right? Like, that’s across the board.

[00:04:54] Like, I mean, you’re an artist. Like so much of what you do has to be intuitive and, you know, it’s, it’s [00:05:00] that kind of thing. And so you said your journey, you’d been in the, on this journey for seven years. So share a little bit about that. Like, what were you doing or did you have a diagnosis? Were there things that were coming up for you that, you know, had you on this journey this long?

[00:05:16] No, I had, um. Really no symptoms or a diagnosis from any doctor or anything saying that I couldn’t, um, I fell pregnant the first time when I was 37. I met my partner later in life and, um, we got married and just tried and tried and tried and I, we had seven miscarriages over the seven years and they were all naturally conceived, not through IVF.

[00:05:42] And then on top of that we had the seven IVF rounds. Um, to which we got a couple embryos. They didn’t, didn’t really last. And then we had two embryos, um, that went on a surrogate journey. Um, so they disappeared to a place [00:06:00] in Greece. That was our last sort of, um, hurrah because I, I was convinced I could not carry the child.

[00:06:07] Um, so after seven miscarriages, I was like, okay, well, I can conceive, but I can’t keep it. Obviously there must be something wrong with my, you know, inside. So I said, okay, let’s get someone else to carry it. So we looked at surrogacy, we went over to Greece, we met the clinic, you know, started the journey.

[00:06:25] Two years later we got a call from our surrogate lawyer and he said that the clinic was, was being shut down. And we like, I mean all the. Signs were there. We were just like, okay, this is just not clearly happening for us. Like we waited two years. Um, it’s just. Yeah, let’s just give up essentially. So, um, after we’ve actually got the embryos back, but it took two years to get them back as well because no, no one knew where they were.

[00:06:58] They just kind of were floating [00:07:00] around the universe. They’ve seen more of the, of the world than I have and haven’t even been born yet.

[00:07:07] Okay, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Let’s back this up. ’cause this is cray. Like, like kind of when you lay it out like this, like, I mean, I know the, the story because I, I know you, but like when you hear it again.

[00:07:19] And you say seven years? Seven miscarriages. Seven IVF cycles. A surrogate situation gone awry. Mm-hmm. Embryos floating out in the universe for two years. Mom and dad in Australia. Embryos in Greece?

[00:07:40] Mm-hmm.

[00:07:42] Giant. WTF.

[00:07:45] Yeah.

[00:07:45] Right. Like, I mean, you would be so justified in giving up, right? Most people would hear that and run for the hills, right?

[00:07:54] Most people don’t like have that, so, so. And you’re then, you’re sitting in [00:08:00] Bali, you listen to this crazy American that you’ve never met before, shouting into the podcast. Like what was it in you though that was able to kind of crawl out of the rubble? Of what was your fertility journey and then stand up straight again with the idea that you could do this or had to have been something in you that stirred, because with your history, like I said, it would’ve been easy for you to just be like, I’m out.

[00:08:30] Yeah. I, I, um, I think I mentioned this to you when we first met I, with all of my miscarriage history. When I fall pregnant or I think I’m pregnant, I don’t even bother testing because I don’t wanna get my hopes up. Um, so I just kind of leave it for as long as I can until, you know, I basically get my period.

[00:08:50] Um, and this time I kind of felt a bit different about it and I feel like I was pregnant before I even joined the program. What I [00:09:00] wanted to join the program for was to keep it, and I never. I was able to do that over the seven times that I had fallen pregnant. And so that was, that was one thing that the reason I actually joined was ’cause I knew I needed help to sustain the pregnancy and make sure that it was viable and that it actually ended up in the outcome of having a baby.

[00:09:25] Um. But before then I had, I was um, being interviewed by somebody and he wanted, he called me up late at night and he’s like, oh, I know it’s late, but can I just ask you a couple of questions? ’cause it’s tomorrow and I just wanna see where your head’s at. So we, he started sort of unraveling the fertility journey.

[00:09:46] That I’d been on. And he’d also had his own struggles. He was, um, gay, he had a surrogate, and he, he managed to have kids. And so he totally understood, um, sort of where I was at. And he was [00:10:00] so sweet and just so loving and was like, I wanna help you. I know I can help you. What can we do? Um. And I said, well, I’ve met them, I’ve, you know, applied for this, uh, amazing program and I’ve actually been listening to this podcast about mindset and things.

[00:10:16] Um, and as I was saying it, he said something that literally made my, if I envisioned a, a, a. A light switch it, I just imagined clicking it and it, and it going up the, the, the little guy that sticks out of the wall to turn the light on. And it was such a physical response in my brain. I could see this light switch and I turned it on and all of a sudden my, I just went, I can totally do this, I can do this.

[00:10:46] I walked back into the house. And I was standing outside my house at the time, putting garbage in the garbage bin, multitasking, and talking to the guy and doing all this stuff. I got back in the house and my husband was on the couch and I said, we’re gonna, let’s go have sex. [00:11:00] And he is like, what? And I was like, yeah, I know.

[00:11:02] I, it just, I’m, it’s the time. Like we’re doing IVF next month. Um, you know, this is the, let’s just give it one run red hot go. And he’s like, oh, I’m really not in the mood. And I was like, oh. But I, you know, I, I really feel like it’s. It’s good time. It’s good time. Let’s, let’s go, let’s do it. And we did it. And the whole time I was doing it, I imagined being very open.

[00:11:26] You talked about this a lot, about stepping into your feminine and being open and just open to possibility, but also your body just imagining that being, you know, a field of all of this possibility that you could open up to. And so I imagine that as we were. Having sex, which is really weird. Then I remember going to the bathroom and sitting down.

[00:11:55] I think I also told you this once before, this might be too [00:12:00] graphic, but usually, usually it just all comes outta me and this time it didn’t and it was like something had had had kind of shifted inside of my body and just got, no, I’m gonna, I’m gonna save it every last drop. Whatever this might be. And then I went to my room and I don’t journal.

[00:12:21] I’m not a journaler, and I wrote in the book this and this journal still to this day, only has one page. And the one page says, I’m pregnant and I am pregnant. This time I know I’m pregnant. I just had it like I just had sex, like did the date like two minutes ago. There’s no way I could have known that and sure enough.

[00:12:47] That one time got me pregnant.

[00:12:52] Well, and I remember you saying this.

[00:12:55] Yeah.

[00:12:56] And then, and you’ve stayed [00:13:00] pregnant?

[00:13:01] Mm-hmm.

[00:13:02] For the first time in seven years.

[00:13:05] Yeah.

[00:13:09] Wow.

[00:13:10] Yeah. And I remember so many on probably three or four occasions where before the 12 weeks was up, I could feel that familiar cramping that like, oh, I, it’s gonna happen. And I, I would take a pot water bottle and I’d climb into bed and I’d start talking. To the baby and I’d be like, Hey, we want you here.

[00:13:35] Like you’ve gotta stay like you don’t have an option. Please, please, what can I do to make you stay? And it was this continual conversation because at the time I was reading that great book, you recommended, um, spirit Babies. And I’d never thought about them as little creatures. You were, you sort of signed a contract with in order to.

[00:13:58] Create, be created [00:14:00] essentially. And I started doing that and it, and I really honestly believe 100% in my heart of hearts that that’s what kept the baby there. ’cause I, I really felt like she was gonna go on so many different occasions. And as soon as I started talking to her, the pain would subside and I’d be okay.

[00:14:20] And then it would happen again, and I’d be like, okay, let, let’s have another chat. It’s crazy.

[00:14:27] Do you remember, because like, you’re such a gangster, like I remember, you know, I’m like, Hey Yasmine, it’s, it’s midnight or plus for Yasmine while we’re all in the morning having these calls, but you were so gangster in this program.

[00:14:41] You always showed up. You always showed up, and then we started calling you and your baby’s name. You know? Mm-hmm. This is Mia’s mom. Like it was just, there was this magic that was starting to happen because it really felt, I love the description that you gave, that a [00:15:00] switch was flipped, but you also, it was so clear in the way that you described it and, and even when we spoke.

[00:15:11] You knew what you wanted. You knew what you were coming for. You had made the decision that you were showing up for this and that you were going to do this not just for yourself, but for this baby, and, and, you know, seeing everything through, and you spoke with such clarity about her so consistently. I mean, it, it’s incredible what you created when you know and, and like think about the transformation that happened for you.

[00:15:43] I wanna hear more about this because I know that everyone listening to this is gonna be like leaning in on that part about like. Especially when you have a history of miscarriage, when you feel those familiar pains and your move instead of going panicked is to [00:16:00] go lie down with a warm water bottle and start talking to your daughter.

[00:16:03] I mean, you knew she was a girl before she, I mean, you could not, I know possibly you called it.

[00:16:09] I know it was very, yeah, it was really weird. I, I knew sh she was a g it was a girl and I knew her name was gonna be called Mia before the 12 weeks was up. And I remember that night when I, when we spoke and we had our workshop and all the other ladies started calling their names, their baby’s names.

[00:16:30] And I just remember that night being so incredibly magical that everybody. Knew who they were gonna have, even though, you know, a lot of them went pregnant, but I, I’m sure they are now. Like, I really do. It was just such a beautiful, magical evening and I was so lucky to be part of it. Yeah.

[00:16:50] Yeah. I mean, and it’s.

[00:16:53] And how did it feel for you to start calling her in that way? Because [00:17:00] I, I think it takes a lot of courage in the face of that kind of a personal history to say, no, I’m calling her. I’m telling her we want her, it’s safe for her to stay.

[00:17:15] Yeah, I felt stupid doing it too. I remember going, oh, this isn’t gonna work.

[00:17:21] And I was like, why am I doing this? But it was really instinctive. It was, it wasn’t, it was almost like I didn’t have a choice. It was like, she’s there, you’ve, you’ve just gotta comfort her. And I think some of that supportive reading material you suggested was really, really, really helpful in just eye-opening the whole.

[00:17:42] Willing of another being into the planet. I never thought about that. I had never, I’ll say, you have sex, you have a baby. That’s, that’s it. You know, there was, I know I had to do a lot of soul searching and, and different, you know, uncovering of things, um, from my past that I needed to [00:18:00] deal with. But I never willed her into life until I started listening to your podcast and I started listening to the stories of other women.

[00:18:11] And realizing that it, that it is like this contract that you are signing with this, with this being that is not in existence yet. And you have to, you and your partner have to accept that you want a child, you want somebody to come into your life and change everything. And you have to say, yes, I, I’m ready for you.

[00:18:30] And I don’t think I had ever really been ready up until that point.

[00:18:36] Wow. And what was it like? To say yes to yourself, Yasmin, because here’s the thing, it, you know, your husband could have been like, oh, seriously, we’re doing this again. Or How many more times are we gonna get a kick to the head? But,

[00:18:53] and he did.

[00:18:55] Yeah. Well say more about that, because you know, you had to have said a massive [00:19:00] Yes to you.

[00:19:01] It was, it was me. It was, and I think when we got pregnant, he said, this is all you. I had checked out. I checked out and I just didn’t wanna tell you. He checked out years ago and I kind of knew that because the last IVF clinic I’d gone to, um, or my, actually, my second to last, it basically told me, don’t try again.

[00:19:24] It’s not possible. Um. You don’t have this thing that makes embryos, embryos, so just forget about it. And I remember when I got told that Tom was actually the one who received the phone call and I was in a shower and my, I just felt like my blood full from my face. I just, it was inexplicable the feeling.

[00:19:46] I was just so devastated and angry. And Tom was like, look, it’s fine. We’ll like look at adoption. And we did. And I. It just, I wanted a natural child that was both of [00:20:00] us. I didn’t want to go down an egg donor route either. And I, there’s nothing wrong with that, but I just didn’t feel like it was my, what I wanted to do.

[00:20:09] So I was like, I did for a year. We didn’t have sex. We didn’t try, we didn’t talk about it. Nothing. And then my friend who was going through a surrogacy she’d also had the very similar journey and she looked at me and she said, when she told me that, you know, she had the baby, I couldn’t believe it. My mouth dropped.

[00:20:31] And she’s like, I’m telling you, please do not give up. The minute you give up, it’s over. You’ve got no chance in hell of having the baby like it’s gone. She’s like, don’t give up. No matter how hard it is. Keep going. And I just kept listening to her after the year that I’d had, I was like, he, she’s right.

[00:20:51] And I, and it’s not necessary. The partner is there with you. I mean, it’s great if he is, but it’s almost a contract with yourself [00:21:00] that you go, I can do this. And then you, on top of that, gave me that confidence of, I’m in my forties, I’m 43. I can have a baby. Why can’t I have a baby? Who the fuck can tell me I can’t have a child?

[00:21:16] Especially a doctor? I, so I started listening to that and I was like, that’s, that’s right. I can do whatever I want and I am late to the table in most things in my life. Why is this not one of those things as well? You know, I always come late to the table and so this is like fully what I’m supposed to, this time is when it was supposed to happen, you know?

[00:21:40] Yeah,

[00:21:41] that is that really, I just, it, I have to be honest, Yasmin, it just grinds me the hubris that people speak to us with because of what we look like on paper. Like can you imagine if you listened to [00:22:00] that doctor who told you, don’t try again, you don’t have what it takes. I mean. We all saw the picture.

[00:22:07] You got a bump af on. You conceive naturally when IVF didn’t work, and look at you now because you’re, you’re gonna have her in a few weeks, right?

[00:22:20] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I’m 37 weeks in two days, and they wanna induce me a week early because I’m a geriatric, which by the way, they should change that term. It is absolutely revolting and.

[00:22:32] I’ve had the craziest pregnancy. I’ve, I, again, with my history, I thought it would be really difficult and it’s been so smooth and so amazing. Um, I, they really need to change that term. It’s revolting.

[00:22:47] Well, it, it’s, it’s not even based in truth anymore, so it’s totally disrespectful and it’s totally revolting.

[00:22:53] The connotation is rotten. Um, but they’re wrong. It’s, it’s like, [00:23:00] what are you even talking about? Like especially when you’re, you’re young and you’re healthy as you are, it’s like, let this, let this baby ride. She’s fine. Like she’s doing great. I mean, that has to have done a lot for you. I think not just as a woman, but as a mother to be as an artist.

[00:23:24] I mean like all of these things. I mean, think about that, like you got this massive nod from the universe that you can trust yourself.

[00:23:33] Mm-hmm.

[00:23:35] Like with, with something as massive as life Yasmine, like, you can, you can trust yourself. I mean, what has that done for you? Like, because your life, in addition to your pregnancy obviously, and, and you know, calling in your daughter, like what do you think some of the ripple effects have been in your own life since this

[00:23:56] I.

[00:23:58] Have never been so calm [00:24:00] in my whole life. I’m pretty like, uh, not frantic, but like I’m a busy person. So I, you know, I think about a thousand things all at once. And, you know, I, I don’t ever really give myself time to reflect or think or, um. Really connect, I guess to moments in life or of my day. And for some reason, and it’s been ever since I found out I was pregnant, I have never felt so calm and collected and even I don’t have this crazy in and out, strong surges of crazy emotion I have.

[00:24:38] I am just so much more level-headed and even my husband was like, can you just stay pregnant? The whole time because you like, you’re, you’re like a changed person. It’s ridiculous. And maybe it’s because, you know, I’m not drinking or whatever, but I just feel like at peace, like I feel like this was what I [00:25:00] wished I’d never worried before, and that this was what the, the timing was.

[00:25:06] The timing. And I should have just. You can’t do that when you’re in the moment, obviously, but like I wished I had just trusted myself a little bit more and gone. It’s gonna happen. When it’s gonna happen, it’s gonna happen.

[00:25:17] Well, and you know, you said something that was really important that I wanna go back to because I think we have a tendency as women who, uh, have babies later in life that it’s like you aren’t late to the party.

[00:25:32] And just because other people were having kids in their late twenties and early thirties doesn’t mean you’re late. Yeah. And it, it’s like, how dare you Yasmine wanna develop your work, um, or yeah. You know, find the right partner and, and, and have some accomplishments under your belt before you, you know, as part of the preparation for being in this next stage in your life.

[00:25:54] I don’t think it’s laid at all. I, I think it’s the new normal.

[00:25:58] Yeah, I totally agree. [00:26:00] And, and my husband and I often laugh because had she come earlier, I mean, my husband almost died two years ago. Like it was a cra like all of these things happened that wouldn’t have, if, if Mia had arrived early, like some bad shit would’ve happened when she was around.

[00:26:20] And I feel like now. Everything’s been cleared and we are just ready. We are just so excited and ecstatic, and I’ve never seen my husband more happy ever in my whole life.

[00:26:34] He’s gonna be

[00:26:34] a girl

[00:26:35] dad.

[00:26:35] I know.

[00:26:37] Wow.

[00:26:37] And it’s just, it’s just amazing to feel this good and this happy after such a shit journey. Um.

[00:26:46] And I had a baby shower yesterday, uh, with a, my bump squad, and it was, you know, six of us sitting around a table, and it was the most beautiful, delightful afternoon. I, I was actually supposed to meet somebody at [00:27:00] five and I totally didn’t even look at my phone. Looked at my phone, and it was past five and I’d been there for five hours and I hadn’t even.

[00:27:06] Thought about looking at my phone. It was just this delightful collection of women who’d also had their own struggles, some of them still going through it. And we were just holding hands and crying and listening to people’s stories about, you can do this and you know, don’t let anybody tell you otherwise.

[00:27:25] And I just, it was just fucking amazing. It was such a nice day. And. I was just so lucky. I felt really, really, really, really, really blessed yesterday. Um,

[00:27:37] wow.

[00:27:37] Yeah.

[00:27:38] Cool. So let’s talk about that for just a moment, because one of the things that I have observed, I, I observed this not only on my own journey, but in the journeys of so many women Well, that you’ve gotten to meet and, and hear about on this podcast.

[00:27:54] But what do you think this did for your relationship with your spirituality and your faith? Because [00:28:00] it had to have blown something wide open. The fact that you. Knew her before she was, you know, before you could see her on a screen. You knew Mia. It was Mia. Mm-hmm. And all of these things must have opened up for you.

[00:28:15] So what do you think?

[00:28:18] I have a, I’ve had really, um, I guess, uh. Uh, tumultuous relationship with faith. I grew up in a really religious household, and so I sort of rejected it for a lot of my life and it only started sort of reappearing in a more spiritual way later on, and I’ve always felt really connected and, um, yeah, I, I kind of feel things a lot more than a lot, a lot of people.

[00:28:46] My grandmother was a lot like that as well, who I’d never met, who I actually feel has been. Quite significant in my own journey, um, as well. And since I fell pregnant, [00:29:00] I ha it has definitely shifted my intensity in belief. And this is a miracle. Like, I just don’t, I don’t know how else to explain it, like it’s miracles exist too.

[00:29:19] Make somebody fall back in love with faith. I really do feel that that’s what’s kind of happened and I. I can’t, I still can’t believe it’s happened. I still can’t believe I’m on here talking about the last 37 weeks. Like I can’t, I, I bump into things ’cause I forget that I have this huge protrusion on my stomach and I’m like, oh yeah, I’m, I’m pregnant.

[00:29:51] I still, I’m, I, it’s, it’s mind boggling and the only thing I can put it down to is a reconnection to something bigger than myself. This world, [00:30:00] this, everything. And it, I, I’m so lucky that I got, given that I got given that opportunity to fall back in love with it. You know, it didn’t have to happen to me. It did, but it didn’t have to.

[00:30:16] Um,

[00:30:17] that’s such a beautiful way of putting it. I’ve never heard it put exactly that way, but I believe it is so Right on. Because that, that’s exactly what it is, is like, it, it’s a, it’s falling in love with the idea of faith and it’s, and faith in its execution,

[00:30:38] you

[00:30:38] know, but at the same time, it’s, it’s almost.

[00:30:42] Just even picking up on your energy here, it’s almost like a homecoming. It’s a return to something. Mm-hmm. You’ve always known.

[00:30:49] Absolutely. Absolutely. And through your, whatever circumstance your life brings upon you, it changes your outlook on how you look at faith. It [00:31:00] has to, you know, you, you have bad times.

[00:31:02] You’re like, oh, fuck this. Why should I believe in anything? And then, I don’t know. It’s, uh, it’s why it’s a miracle that you even get the miracle, because why would somebody give you that if you’ve been so unfaithful? Right? Why would you do that? You know? Um. So to be given that opportunity is a miracle in itself.

[00:31:21] So I to have a double whammy, to have the, the opportunity and then the miracle actually appear like, that’s crazy. So how can you not believe, like, like, yeah,

[00:31:34] yeah.

[00:31:34] Um, yeah.

[00:31:37] How, how do you think this is gonna shape how you parent Mia? Like, do you have a sense of that? Like, have you been thinking much about that?

[00:31:45] Oh yeah. I mean. Just that your mind is everything, the way you think, the positivity, what you tell it, what you feed it, what you read, what you watch. Um, you [00:32:00] really can do anything, anything you want. You just have to tell yourself you can and will it and you, and it will happen. Like there’s nothing, no one cannot do.

[00:32:15] I truly, truly, truly, truly, truly believe that, um, and especially as women being told their entire lives, you can’t be this, you can’t do that. You’re not strong enough, you’re not smart enough, you’re not pretty enough, you’re not any of these things. That’s absolute bullshit, and I can’t wait to teach her.

[00:32:36] That the world is your oyster. You. You go and do whatever you want. You can do whatever you want. You can be whoever you want, as long as you do it with kindness and grace and gratitude. That’s all I care about. Mm-hmm.

[00:32:52] I, I remember Dr. Christian, Northrop said to me, gosh, a few years ago now, but she said that the children born to [00:33:00] mothers in this time were going to be special and they were going to be unique. There’s an a unique. Call on their lives. And I think that as women who have lived a journey like this, I think there is a uniqueness about like, wow, it really took so much to get them here and understanding the miracle, but it also gave us a chance to grow and become something more as well, because I think this is also a testament.

[00:33:32] To your own shift in your femininity. Yeah. To be able to receive, I mean, kind of going back to something you said earlier, but to really be in that softness and be in that receptivity that, you know, we get to change our family tree completely.

[00:33:49] And that’s so true. Like I, I’m, I really struggled with the feminine side of me.

[00:33:53] I think we talked about this and I, uh, and you are like, being creative is like the number one. Thing about [00:34:00] being feminine. So you have to be feminine ’cause you’re super creative. But I’ve never felt that way. And since being pregnant with Mia, I have felt more feminine and maybe, obviously ’cause it’s such a, you know, female driven situation.

[00:34:16] I find myself in, you know, growing, growing a child. But I, I really hope that when she comes out. And I already feel that she is this way. She’s gonna be way more feminine than me. She’s gonna have that connectivity from the get go. That softness, that, that, um, that beauty that you attached with the female figure.

[00:34:38] I know that she’s, she’s already encompassing because I can feel that. Um, it’s

[00:34:43] so funny,

[00:34:44] so

[00:34:44] funny

[00:34:45] that Yeah.

[00:34:45] Yeah. I mean, it’s so funny that our kids are exactly like when I look at Asher now, I was just out with him. Um, he was out climbing trees this afternoon and I was out there. He’s like, mom, come and watch me climb the street.

[00:34:58] And I’m like, this, you know, the whole time. [00:35:00] But he is exactly the boy. It makes perfect sense that he’s my son and I, I really, I honestly believe that when you, when you really meet Mia, you know, for the first time, you know, face to face, I think it’s gonna make all kinds of sense. And then as she’s growing up, you’re gonna be like, oh,

[00:35:19] of course she’s my daughter.

[00:35:21] Of course.

[00:35:22] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:35:24] Wow. It’s crazy. Wow. Well, so ya, what would you, so as we close this out and you. And we reflect. I mean, you were once a listener and now you’re a guest. Yeah. You know, what are some of the things, in addition to some of the bombs that you’ve dropped here, but like what are some of the things that you would want the women listening to really take to heart from your own experience?

[00:35:58] I think every, [00:36:00] when I was talking about my lunch yesterday, everybody’s way of conceiving was so different. Um, you know, one of my friend’s child, uh, she’d already had a baby and, and he was a, you know. He wielded it in. That’s what she said. He, he brought the baby in. He wanted it a sibling so bad, he stood in front of her belly and whispered daily.

[00:36:26] And she honestly believes that’s how he came about. And then another friend of mine had a, like a, uh, she heard something. And I know this sounds crazy. All of this is,

[00:36:38] it’s not girl

[00:36:39] sounds crazy.

[00:36:40] You’re forgetting what podcast you’re listening to. Like, yeah, no, none of this is crazy.

[00:36:45] There is, it’s about sitting down and listening and making sure that you actually listen intently because there’s signs everywhere telling you that it’s gonna happen.

[00:36:56] You’re just not really open to it. ’cause at that [00:37:00] point you’ve gone through such a terrible time that you are willing it not to happen. You are saying no. You know, it’s not gonna happen. It’s not gonna happen. It’s not gonna happen. Of course, it’s not gonna happen. If you’re gonna say that, the minute you change that mindset and truly not just today, I’m feeling better.

[00:37:21] It’s possible. I mean, truly, truly, truly think about it and go, I can do this. You will do it. There’s, it’s not an option. Because you wanted to get that job. You got that job. You wanted to buy that house. You got that house you wanted to be friends with. That person you were friends with that person. Why is this any different?

[00:37:42] Why is it any different? Because you don’t believe it because you’ve been told your whole life, you can’t. You can’t have this. Why would you believe that? If somebody said, you can’t have that house, you can’t have that job, you can’t have that friend. [00:38:00] No, you would try harder every time until you got it. So that would be, yeah, that would be my take home is listening to yourself and being kind and saying, you can do this.

[00:38:19] And it sounds so, so incredibly easy, but it’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my whole life is have a baby, is conceive and keep this child. It’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done,

[00:38:31] and it’s unquestionably the thing that’s going to propel you even farther. In everything else that you do, because I’m telling you now, Yasmine, everything else is a piece of cake.

[00:38:46] That’s what I feel like. That’s what I feel like.

[00:38:49] It’s like that cover all this. Please, Kate, you’re like, yeah, no problem. I, you know, look at my daughter. The rest of it I can handle, [00:39:00] like I’m ready for it. I mean, and, and thank you so much Yasmeen, for sharing that. It’s, it’s such a beautiful thing and I think this is gonna touch so many lives because we don’t hear enough of this.

[00:39:13] We don’t hear enough of the real stories of inspiration. Real women. Yeah. You know. Clawing themselves out of a pile of statistics. And you know, women who are very badly behaved and refuse to accept the labels, refuse to be put in a box, refuse to just be cast aside and being told that what they desire is idiotic.

[00:39:44] Like, thank God for women like you who, who were. Courageous enough to buck the system and say no, like, I’m going to believe for this. I know my daughter’s named I, I, I’m calling her [00:40:00] every time she try. She might try to go, but you bring her back and you’re like, Nope, you’re gonna be born. Your dad and I are ready.

[00:40:07] So thank you so much for sharing that, Yasmine, and I just couldn’t be more delighted for you and Tom. Like I just am so thrilled. And yes, thank you for your generosity.

[00:40:19] Thank you so much. Like honestly, you triggered something in me that, um, I thought was very much dead. Um, so thank you so much for what you’ve brought to the table for myself and my my family to be.

[00:40:33] Um, I can’t thank you enough for everything, Roseanne. Oh, I really appreciate it.

[00:40:37] Oh, I received that and you hug Tom for me. And you let me know when she’s born. Okay.

[00:40:43] I will, I will.

[00:40:45] Alright, love you ya. It’s

[00:40:47] me as mom. See you later.

[00:40:49] Loves wasn’t my conversation with Yasmine. Absolutely fantastic. I hope that you took from all of this, that you could have seven years [00:41:00] of quote unquote failure failed IVF seven miscarriages and still get and stay pregnant naturally at 43 and beyond.

[00:41:09] It is completely possible, but you have to be the woman. Who takes a stand for that? So if you wanna learn what I taught Yasmine, go to my website www.frommaybetwobaby.com and apply for an interview there. My methodology clearly has helped women all over the world finally get and stay pregnant, making their mom dreams come true.

[00:41:31] The results speak for themselves. And look, if you don’t have a mindset for success on. You have a gaping hole in your strategy because your mind will give up way before your body ever will. So go to my website www.frommaybetobaby.com. Until next time, change your mindset. Change your results.

[00:41:55] Love this episode of The Fearlessly Fertile Podcast.

[00:41:58] Subscribe now and leave an awesome [00:42:00] review. Remember the desire in your heart to be a mom is there because it was meant for you. When it comes to your dreams, keep saying hell yes.

There is a specific skillset my ladies master to manifest their babies and their dreams — and in this Fertility Fast Fact, I’m sharing two critical pieces of that skillset. If you don’t make these part of your DAILY life, you will sabotage your success one way or another. This is the Fertility Miracle Equation — and it will change everything.

If you’re new to the mindset side of this journey, start with How Smart Women Build Fertility Confidence

for instant grounding. If you need proof that changing the way you think changes your results, listen to Pregnant Naturally at 46: A Conversation with CHÁ Mosley for an inspiring example of what’s possible.

And if you’re ready to shift from “why isn’t this working?” to “I am calling in my miracle,” explore the stories, tools, and success pathways in The Smartest Question to Ask on Your Journey or Signs That You’re Closer Than You Think— they pair beautifully with today’s episode.

This Fertility Fast Fact breaks down why perception + receiving = miracles, and why your mindset is the most important real estate you own on this journey.

The Fertility Miracle Equation is simple: Perception + Your Ability to Receive = Fertility Miracles. Your beliefs shape how you interpret setbacks, opportunities, and possibilities. When you pair empowered perception with true receptivity, you create the conditions for miraculous outcomes on your journey. For more support shifting your beliefs, listen to Signs You’re Closer Than You Think

Your perception determines whether you interpret events as dead-ends or divine nudges. Women who perceive life as happening for them notice support, opportunities, and alignment — the ingredients for fertility success. If you want an inspiring example of perception shifting results, listen to Pregnant Naturally at 46

Your ability to receive includes saying yes to support, resources, guidance, and opportunities — instead of staying in scarcity or hyper-independence. Receiving is essential for conception emotionally, energetically, and physically. To deepen this work, check out Mantra for Fertility, which helps shift you into a receptive, aligned state.

Start by releasing guilt around investing in yourself, asking for help, and saying yes to opportunities that support your dream. When you shift from “I don’t deserve this” to “I am worthy of miracles,” everything changes. For guidance shifting out of fear-based patterns, listen to A Break From Fear and Doom.

Yes. Women collapse years of struggle into months when they shift both their perception and their willingness to receive. This mindset work doesn’t replace medical care — it enhances it by helping you stay consistent, brave, and aligned. For proof, explore The Smartest Question to Ask on Your Journey to see how mental framing impacts decisions and results.

Because they stop letting old beliefs and fear define them. They step into empowered perception, open themselves to receiving support and guidance, and align with the woman they need to become. Many of these stories appear in your guest episodes — a great one to start with is She Had an FSH of 100 and Beat the Odds Naturally.

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You’re not here to “hope.”
You’re here to become the woman for whom miracles happen.

There is a VERY specific skillset my ladies learn in order to manifest their babies and their dreams. I’m sharing TWO pieces of the skillset that if you don’t find a way to make a part of your DAILY reality, you will most certaintly sabotage your success on this journey one way or another. Can’t say I didn’t warn you!

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There's nothing that will f*ck you over faster on this journey than a poverty mindset. If you don't know what that is and want to think abundantly, like my Miracle Mamas do, then turn this one up...way up. Oh, and if you have a hard time receiving (remember conceiving is all about receiving) you will want to have this episode on repeat. Can't say I didn't warn you. 

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When you’re on your fertility journey, it can feel like every phone call, lab result, or unexpected delay is a five-alarm fire. But living from crisis to crisis is exhausting — and unnecessary. In this Fertility Fast Fact, you’ll learn how to think like a woman who stays calm, clear, and powerful when life throws curveballs on the road to your baby.

If anxiety and catastrophic “what ifs” are running your life, pair this episode with A Break From Fear and Doom for instant nervous system relief. Then follow it with How Smart Women Approach “What If It Doesn’t Work?” to shift from panic to empowered decision-making.

If you’re tired of white-knuckling your fertility journey and ready to think like a woman who wins, this episode — plus the Fearlessly Fertile Method® programs — will change how you respond to stress, setbacks, and curveballs forever.

It means that when something goes wrong — a delay, a canceled cycle, scary news — you look for the invitation. Instead of panicking, you ask: “What solution am I being pointed toward? How can this strengthen me or reveal my next move?”

Stop worst-case spiraling. Name the situation clearly, identify the next best action, remind yourself that a solution exists, and reach out for support so you’re not carrying it alone.

High-achieving women are wired for control. When plans shift, your nervous system interprets it as danger. Recognizing the pattern — and not treating it as truth — helps you pause, breathe, and respond from clarity instead of fear.

Ask better questions. Shift from “Why is this happening to me?” to:
• “What result am I committed to?”
• “Who can help me solve this?”
• “What options haven’t I explored yet?”
These questions activate your problem-solving brain instead of fueling panic.

Yes. Your mindset shapes how you interpret challenges and what choices you make next. Women who believe “There is always a way” take bolder, smarter, more consistent action — and those choices directly affect your chances of getting and staying pregnant.

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When we are struggling on the fertility journey, we like to think we are approaching problems “logically.” The truth is WE ARE NOT. There is something much deeper that is controlling not only our decision making, but the emotions that well up as we face the ups and downs of this chapter in our lives. If you want to make decisions about your fertility from a place of confidence and power, tune in now–then listen at least twice more.

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On the fertility journey, it can feel like every moment is a battle — with your clinic, your schedule, your body, your partner, your family, and even yourself. We’re taught to fight “on principle,” but what if clinging to principle in the wrong moments is draining your energy, blocking your baby, and pulling you further from peace?

If you’re exhausted, overwhelmed, and feel like no one gets what you’re carrying, this episode will help you choose peace in a way that empowers you — not silences you. For grounding and inspiration on letting go of unnecessary struggle, listen next to The Power of Seeing Signs.

or the story of a woman who truly stopped fighting the wrong battles in She Had an FSH of 100 and Beat the Odds.

If your nervous system has been fried by fear, pair this episode with A Break From Fear and Doom.

to bring your cortisol back to Earth. Your peace matters — and choosing it will change the whole trajectory of your journey.

It means choosing your emotional well-being over winning every argument, proving a point, or holding rigidly to rules that drain you. It’s a way of conserving your energy for what actually creates success. To hear an example of this shift in action, listen to Signs You’re Closer Than You Think

Ask yourself: Will this bring me closer to peace or drag me deeper into stress? Women who succeed learn to choose their battles wisely. For guidance recognizing when you’re over-fighting, explore The Smartest Question to Ask on Your Journey.

Yes. Your nervous system influences hormones, inflammation, decision-making, and even relationship stability. Reducing unnecessary conflict supports the physical and emotional environment conception thrives in. To learn more about nervous system support, listen to The Power of Seeing Signs.

Reframe peace as a power move — not surrender. Peace is strategic. It keeps your mind clear, your body calm, and your path aligned. For a mindset reset around “giving up vs. letting go,” pair this with Pregnant Naturally at 46.

You can choose peace internally even when others don’t change. Set boundaries, protect your energy, and disengage from unnecessary conflict. Your peace creates clarity — and clarity creates results. 

Advocating for yourself, asking direct questions, making informed decisions, and honoring your body’s needs are principles many women uphold. But the key is discernment — knowing which hills to die on. For inspiration, explore Episode 28: She Had an FSH of 100 where a woman chose her principles and her peace strategically.

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Jealous of your man’s baby-mama? When your partner has kids from a prior relationship, there’s an understandable tension between his past and the present you are creating together. If you aren’t careful this can rot your relationship from the inside out AND create serious blocks between you and the baby you want to have with him. Few have the guts to speak this truth and everyone can take something away from the truth I’m about to lay down.

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One of the biggest sources of anxiety on the fertility journey comes down to one question: “What if it doesn’t work?” When you let that question run wild, it can turn you into a quivering mass of fearful jelly. But when you learn to think like the smart, high-achieving woman you are, “what if it doesn’t work?” becomes a tool — not a terror.

In this episode, I break down exactly how high-performing women approach this question so you can stop future-tripping, ditch destination thinking, and make decisions like a woman who ultimately beats the odds. If fear has been hijacking your brain, listen to this alongside A Break From Fear and Doom for a total reset. And if you’re late-night Googling worst-case scenarios, you must also hear Mantra for Fertility and The Smartest Question to Ask on Your Journey.

If you’re in or approaching your Two Week Wait and “what if it doesn’t work?” is screaming in your ear, the Luxuriously Low-Stress Two Week Wait Course will give those 14-ish days calm structure, confidence, and sanity.

Smart women don’t let What Ifs run them. They use them to clarify their next move. If you’re spooked about the future, turn up this episode, take notes, and then take powerful, aligned action.

Because most women treat the question like a prediction of failure instead of feedback about what’s not working yet. When you shift from fear to resourcefulness, the question becomes a strategic tool.

They slow down the panic, get curious, identify what can be optimized, and make decisions from clarity — not fear. They don’t catastrophize; they strategize.

Yes. Chronic fear activates survival mode and shuts down resourcefulness. When you regulate your thoughts and emotions, you make better decisions, advocate for yourself, and stay committed long enough to win.

Use grounding tools like breathwork, mantras, journaling, and nervous system regulation. Pair mindset work with episodes like A Break From Fear and Doom to reset your emotional state.

Create a calm, structured container — like the Luxuriously Low-Stress Two Week Wait course. Structure reduces anxiety and keeps your mind from obsessively future-tripping.

High-achieving, Type A women who are done letting fear, statistics, timelines, doctors, or insurance limits dictate what’s possible for their baby dreams.

Want to stop letting “what if it doesn’t work?” dictate your decisions?

Apply for the  Fearlessly Fertile Method® program

This is where high-achieving women learn to think, believe, and take action like women who get pregnant — no matter their past.

As we say goodbye to 2024, I’m sharing some powerful tools for intelligently reflecting on the past–without slipping into circling the drain in regret. If you want to start 2025 off on the baby-making path…turn this one up. Happy New Year! Ready to finally think, believe, and take action like a woman who has a […]

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