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  • Episode 87: F*ck the Uterus Collector

    Lizz is back, and with her brings the fury of 1000 suns for Immigrations and Customs Enforcement prisoners telling of forced hysterectomies. We are also hopeful that unfettered abortion access will prevail, and Colorado’s 115 will be voted down in November. And finally, we are cheering for the $225,000 bill the city has to foot for trying to unfairly push out a new clinic. 



    Gathered in the Sleeper Cell



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    Moji Alawode-El @mojilocks



    Marie Khan @mkhanj 



    Quick Hits



    The genocidal horror of ICE



    * https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/hysterectomy-allegation-immigrants-america.html * https://www.prismreports.org/article/2020/9/15/exclusive-georgia-doctor-who-forcibly-sterilized-detained-women-has-been-identified * https://rewire.news/article/2020/09/14/in-the-1970s-racism-led-to-women-being-sterilized-against-their-will-could-it-happen-again/* https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/14/ice-detainees-hysterectomies-medical-neglect-irwin-georgia * Call the DHS hotline at 1-800-323-8603



    We Need to Watch Colorado



    * https://coloradotimesrecorder.com/2020/09/over-130-faith-leaders-voice-opposition-to-colorados-anti-abortion-ballot-measure/30218/* https://www.cpr.org/2020/06/08/22-week-abortion-ban-will-be-on-colorados-2020-ballot/ * https://voteno115.com/



    Tennessee City Penalized in Zoning Restriction Decisions



    * https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/wilson/mt-juliet/2020/09/15/mt-juliet-pay-225-k-abortion-settlement-carafem-clinic/5802117002/ 



    Six Degrees of Abortion 



    The Carnival Cruise is sinking...can Lizz tie them to abortion?



    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/carnival-cruises-cancels-trips-spring-131447520.html



    Announcements



    SIGN OUR PETITION DEMANDING FAKE CLINICS RETURN PPP FUNDS



    * https://bit.ly/2CltV2S 



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    All the housekeeping



    * Write a review / give us 5 stars - it’s the best way for our podcast to reach more people!* Follow us on social @accessforce on Twitter/Instagram/Facebook/tikok and YouTube* Email us at podcast@aaforce.org! * Edited by Brad Pearson,
    39 min
  • Episode 86: Can’t We Just Cancel Ted Cruz

    M&M prove yet again that we don’t melt in the hands of Ted Cruz, even though we are hot with rage over his (and the right’s) attempts at dismantling abortion pill care. In summary of today’s topics: the abortion pill is SAFE; hell yes for representational abortion story telling; and we cannot forget that COVID is harming reproductive care south of us, too. We add some books to our reading list and are hoping to return for an in-depth discussion of the Turnaway Study in the future! #AbortionIsHealthcare



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    Quick Hits



    Can We PLEASE Listen to Physicians?!



    * https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/09/physicians-tell-justices-not-to-disturb-lower-court-ruling-that-eased-access-to-abortion-pill-during-pandemic/* https://rewire.news/article/2020/09/09/the-abortion-pill-is-safe-so-why-are-conservatives-lying-about-it/ 



    The Beauty of Abortion Storytelling



    * https://www.elle.com/culture/books/a33953430/dr-meera-shah-youre-the-only-one-ive-told-interview/* https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ehf2jN8WsAM8G17.jpg



    Confronting Gender Based Crime and Reproductive Discrimination in Latin America



    * https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/feminists-take-over-human-rights-office/* https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/09/activists-latin-america-access-safe-abortion-covid19/ 



    Meaty Story



    Abortion Is Healthcare



    * https://www.huffpost.com/entry/myth-abortion-hurts-women_n_5f52647bc5b6578026cd5e51* Turnaway Study: https://www.ansirh.org/research/turnaway-study 



    Announcements



    Have you bought your tickets yet to Do Re #MeToo?! Sarah Frazier will tell you how to!



    * Tickets are available at: aafront.org/drmt



    SIGN OUR PETITION DEMANDING FAKE CLINICS RETURN PPP FUNDS



    * https://bit.ly/2CltV2S 



    All the housekeeping



    * Write a review / give us 5 stars - it’s the best way for our podcast to reach more people!* Follow us on social @accessforce on Twitter/Instagram/Facebook and YouTube* Email us at podcast@aaforce.org! * Edited by Brad Pearson, theme song by Cory Eischen, The Purple Xperience



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    MAY THE ABORTION ACCESS FORCE BE WITH YOU!
    43 min
  • Episode 85: Ben Shapiro Is Going To Hell

    Two legs of the Feminist Sleeper Cell stool have gathered around the dumpster fire this week, to roast the ongoing bad decisions of the Republican Party. From Ted Cruz’s letter to the FDA asking them to ban the abortion pill (just WUT) to the RNC tossing a soapbox to anti-abortion profiteer and racist Abby Johnson, we are exhausted just staying informed. Moji and Marie are excited to be joined by AAF Tennessee lead volunteer Cara McClane, who’s had the dubious honor of meeting Ms. Johnson and hearing her snake-oil speeches. Make sure to check out our announcement section and reserve your spot at Do Re #MeToo!



    Gathered in the Sleeper Cell



    Follow us on Twitter! 



    Moji Alawode-El @mojilocks



    Marie Khan @mkhanj 



    Quick Hits



    Someone Get Ted Cruz Away From His Typewriter



    * https://www.cruz.senate.gov/files/documents/Letters/2020.09.01%20--%20Pro-Life%20Mifeprex%20Letter%20to%20FDA%20-%20FSV.pdf* https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/exclusive-gop-senators-ask-the-fda-to-classify-the-abortion-pill-as-dangerous/



    Black Americans Are Polled On Abortion Views



    * https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/318932/black-americans-abortion.aspx 



    The Scrutiny of Margaret Sanger



    * https://www.thenation.com/article/society/canceling-margaret-sanger/



    Abortion CAN Be a Joke



    * https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/09/03/unpregnant-film-trying-turn-abortion-into-humor-column/5674006002/ * https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/unpregnant 



    The Interview



    We are so excited to have Cara McClane, one of our two lead volunteers with AAF Tennessee joining us in a thorough discussion of Abby Johnson, ex-Planned Parenthood employee turned religious right opportunist. 



    * https://www.texasobserver.org/conversion-story/* https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/rnc-abby-johnson-anti-abortion-conversion-story-republican-national-convention.html* https://rewire.news/article/2009/11/03/planned-parenthood-directors-holes-story-revealed-in-recent-radio-interview/* https://zora.medium.com/abby-johnsons-video-shows-the-problem-with-white-parents-adopting-children-of-color-949b602e1328* https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/935me3/an-rnc-speaker-said-cops-would-be-smart-to-racially-profile-her-own-son 



    Announcements



    1 hr 4 min
  • Episode 85: Ben Shapiro Is Going to Hell

    Two legs of the Feminist Sleeper Cell stool have gathered around the dumpster fire this week, to roast the ongoing bad decisions of the Republican Party. From Ted Cruz’s letter to the FDA asking them to ban the abortion pill (just WUT) to the RNC tossing a soapbox to anti-abortion profiteer and racist Abby Johnson, we are exhausted just staying informed. Moji and Marie are excited to be joined by AAF Tennessee lead volunteer Cara McClane, who’s had the dubious honor of meeting Ms. Johnson and hearing her snake-oil speeches. Make sure to check out our announcement section and reserve your spot at Do Re #MeToo!



    Gathered in the Sleeper Cell



    Follow us on Twitter! 



    Moji Alawode-El @mojilocks



    Marie Khan @mkhanj 



    Quick Hits



    Someone Get Ted Cruz Away From His Typewriter



    * https://www.cruz.senate.gov/files/documents/Letters/2020.09.01%20--%20Pro-Life%20Mifeprex%20Letter%20to%20FDA%20-%20FSV.pdf* https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/exclusive-gop-senators-ask-the-fda-to-classify-the-abortion-pill-as-dangerous/



    Black Americans Are Polled On Abortion Views



    * https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/318932/black-americans-abortion.aspx 



    The Scrutiny of Margaret Sanger



    * https://www.thenation.com/article/society/canceling-margaret-sanger/



    Abortion CAN Be a Joke



    * https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/09/03/unpregnant-film-trying-turn-abortion-into-humor-column/5674006002/ * https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/unpregnant 



    The Interview



    We are so excited to have Cara McClane, one of our two lead volunteers with AAF Tennessee joining us in a thorough discussion of Abby Johnson, ex-Planned Parenthood employee turned religious right opportunist. 



    * https://www.texasobserver.org/conversion-story/* https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/rnc-abby-johnson-anti-abortion-conversion-story-republican-national-convention.html* https://rewire.news/article/2009/11/03/planned-parenthood-directors-holes-story-revealed-in-recent-radio-interview/* https://zora.medium.com/abby-johnsons-video-shows-the-problem-with-white-parents-adopting-children-of-color-949b602e1328* https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/935me3/an-rnc-speaker-said-cops-would-be-smart-to-racially-profile-her-own-son 



    Announcements



    1 hr 4 min
  • Feminist Sleeper Cell LIVE from Netroots Nation w/ Guest Robin Marty

    Today is the last of our incredible podcasts recorded at Netroots Nation! 



    We are going out with a bang as we unpack the dark and creepy AF history behind Operation Rescue/Operation Save America. Author and journalist Robin Marty joins us as we dive into their dangerous attacks on abortion access, LGBTQ, and non-Christian communities. 



    Plus we hit some of the biggest stories happening in abortion access this week! 



    Listen up! 



    Gathered in the Sleeper Cell



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    Lizz Winstead @lizzwinstead



    Moji Alawode-El @mojilocks



    Marie Khan @mkhanj 



    LINK TO SHOW NOTES (link goes to pod post on website where all this info lives)



    Opening Clip



    Rusty Thomas, Leader of Operation Save America, explains to us how “ABORTION IS A MAN’S ISSUE”



    Quick Hits



    Challenges on Judge’s Affirming Abortion Pill Decision



    * https://www.law360.com/lifesciences/articles/1298092/states-defend-fda-s-abortion-pill-restrictions-at-4th-circ-* https://www.guttmacher.org/evidence-you-can-use/medication-abortion



    Wonderful News Out of Alabama



    * https://yellowhammerfund.org/2020/05/15/its-true-we-bought-a-clinic/* https://rewire.news/article/2020/08/03/exclusive-meet-the-doctor-helping-transform-abortion-care-in-alabama/



    The Interview



    The FSC is so excited to be joined by an amazing guest, Robin Marty! Author (her newest book is The End of Roe: Inside the Right’s Plan to Destroy Legal Abortion), journalist, and the newly named communications director of the West Alabama Women’s Center, Robin talks with us about abortion care in Alabama, the history behind OSA, and the intersectional hate and influence of the anti-abortion movement.



    Six Degrees of Abortion 



    Can Lizz Connect UFOs to Abortion?



    https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/13/politics/pentagon-ufo-task-force/index.html



    Announcements



    SIGN OUR PETITION DEMANDING FAKE CLINICS RETURN PPP FUNDS



    * https://bit.ly/2CltV2S 



    Did we mention we have video of today’s podcast?!



    * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVaW2oc_Y2I



    Get excited for another edition of Do Re #MeToo, a night of reclaiming sexist songs! 



    * Tickets are available at: aafront.org/drmt



    All the housekeeping



    * Write a review / give us 5 stars - it’s the best way for our podcast to reach more people!* Follow us on social @accessforce on Twitter/Instagram/Facebook and YouTube* Email us at podcast@aaforce.org! * Edited by Brad Pearson, theme song by Cory Eischen,
    59 min
  • Feminist Sleeper Cell LIVE from Netroots Nation w/ Guest Robin Marty

    Today is bittersweet- we have reached the end of our broadcast week at Netroots Nation! We are going out with a bang however, and are so excited to talk about state challenges to a judge’s decision to allow easier access to the abortion pill during COVID, plus amazing news out of the Yellowhammer Fund that supports abortion access and care in Alabama. The Sleeper Cell team is also pumped to be joined by author and journalist Robin Marty, who unpacks the dark history behind Operation Save America and their attacks on abortion access, LGBTQ, and non-Christian communities. 



    Gathered in the Sleeper Cell



    Lizz Winstead @lizzwinstead



    Moji Alawode-El @mojilocks



    Marie Khan @mkhanj 



    LINK TO SHOW NOTES (link goes to pod post on website where all this info lives)



    Opening Clip



    Rusty Thomas, Leader of Operation Save America, explains to us how “ABORTION IS A MAN’S ISSUE”



    Quick Hits



    Challenges on Judge’s Affirming Abortion Pill Decision



    * https://www.law360.com/lifesciences/articles/1298092/states-defend-fda-s-abortion-pill-restrictions-at-4th-circ-* https://www.guttmacher.org/evidence-you-can-use/medication-abortion



    Wonderful News out of Alabama



    * https://yellowhammerfund.org/2020/05/15/its-true-we-bought-a-clinic/* https://rewire.news/article/2020/08/03/exclusive-meet-the-doctor-helping-transform-abortion-care-in-alabama/



    The Interview



    The FSC is so excited to be joined by an amazing guest, Robin Marty! Author (her newest book is The End of Roe: Inside the Right’s Plan to Destroy Legal Abortion), journalist, and the newly named communications director of the West Alabama Women’s Center, Robin talks with us about abortion care in Alabama, the history behind OSA, and the intersectional hate and influence of the anti abortion movement.



    Six Degrees of Abortion 



    Can Lizz Connect UFOs to Abortion?



    https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/13/politics/pentagon-ufo-task-force/index.html



    Announcements



    SIGN OUR PETITION DEMANDING FAKE CLINICS RETURN PPP FUNDS



    * https://bit.ly/2CltV2S 



    Did we mention we have video of today’s podcast?!



    * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVaW2oc_Y2I



    Get excited for another edition of Do Re #MeToo, a night of reclaiming sexist songs! 



    * Tickets are available at: aafront.org/drmt



    All the housekeeping



    * Write a review/ give us 5 stars* Follow us on social @accessforce on Twitter/Instagram* Email us at podcast@aaforce.org! * Edited by Brad Pearson, theme song by Cory Eischen, The Purple Xperience



    59 min
  • Feminist Sleeper Cell LIVE from Netroots Nation w/ Guests Renee Bracey Sherman, Morgan Hopkins, and Jen Moore Conrow

    Our stint at Netroots Nation 2020 continues, this time with even more bad abortion news. While Arkansas is busy trying to make doctors call the police on pregnant minors (we cannot overemphasize how cruel this is), stop D&E procedures (the standard medical process for a second trimester termination), and allow a patient’s family to meddle in their abortion decision, WE NOW ALSO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE POST OFFICE. Plus, joining us is a trio of amazing activists, clinic professionals, and legislative experts to talk about the toxicity of the Hyde and Helms Amendments and how the US must reverse rules like these to truly give folks globally a chance at equitable abortion care. 



    Gathered in the Sleeper Cell



    Lizz Winstead @lizzwinstead



    Moji Alawode-El @mojilocks



    Marie Khan @mkhanj 



    LINK TO SHOW NOTES (link goes to pod post on website where all this info lives)



    Quick Hits



    What is Happening in Arkansas



    * https://msmagazine.com/2020/08/10/federal-court-reverses-block-on-arkansas-abortion-law-citing-john-roberts/* https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/court-lifts-ruling-against-4-arkansas-abortion-restrictions/2020/08/07/8908885a-d8da-11ea-a788-2ce86ce81129_story.html



    Calling All Our US Postal Service Activists 



    * https://indyweek.com/news/aldona-wos-disastrous-tenure-dhhs-secretary-finally/* https://journalnow.com/news/state/anti-abortion-activist-hired-for-state-health-job/article_0bf5082c-20cf-11e3-997a-0019bb30f31a.html* https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/13/politics/trump-usps-funding-comments-2020-election/index.html



    The Interview



    The whores in this house are so excited to talk with Renee Bracey Sherman (We Testify), Morgan Hopkins (All Above All), and Jen Moore Conrow (Abortion Provider turned Consultant) about the cruelty imposed by the Hyde and Helms Amendments, restricting domestic and international funding for abortion care, and the overall barriers some of the most volunerable populations face in seeking abortion care.



    * https://theslot.jezebel.com/joe-biden-really-wants-you-to-forget-that-he-supported-1842359569* https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/455677-harris-challenges-biden-over-hyde-amendment-flip-flop* https://msmagazine.com/2020/08/13/helms-amendment-its-time-to-confront-senator-jesse-helms-sexist-racist-and-homophobic-legacy/* https://rewire.news/article/2019/06/21/heres-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-hyde-amendment-and-efforts-to-end-it/*
    58 min
  • Episode 82: LIVE from Netroots Nation w/ guest Diana Parker

    We have a special treat for our listeners today! The three-headed whore Hydra has landed at Netroots Nation 2020, virtually hosting a daily morning dump of garbage repro news! We open this segment pleading Ben Shapiro to leave our wet ass pussies alone and assessing the Biden-Harris ticket on abortion and intersectional issues (Kamala...trans lives matter...full stop). We are demanding the return of federal PPP funds given to fake clinics during COVID, while REAL clinics are economically struggling. And we are so excited to talk with Diana Parker, badass Executive Director of Midwest Access Coalition, a practical support abortion organization assisting with lodging, travel support and logistics, childcare, and other final barrierss that often make abortion unattainable. 



    Gathered in the Sleeper Cell



    Lizz Winstead @lizzwinstead



    Moji Alawode-El @mojilocks



    Marie Khan @mkhanj 



    LINK TO SHOW NOTES (link goes to pod post on website where all this info lives)



    Ben Shapiro And His No Good Very Bad WAP Narration https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1292901692191760389



    Quick Hits



    What Do We Think About the Biden-Harris Ticket?



    * https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/us/politics/kamala-harris-abortion.html* https://www.vox.com/2019/6/22/18713603/joe-biden-hyde-amendment * https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/08/12/kamala-harris-trans-rights-trangender-pose-angelica-ross-lgbt/* https://www.advocate.com/election/2019/9/20/kamala-harris-denying-gender-affirmation-surgery-trans-inmates



    Demand the Return of PPP Funds Given to Fake Clinics



    * https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/7/13/21320179/ppp-loans-sba-paycheck-protection-program-polling-kanye-west* https://www.thecut.com/2020/08/anti-abortion-centers-received-millions-in-covid-bailout.html* https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/03/anti-abortion-centers-paycheck-protection-program



    The Interview



    The team sits down (virtually) with Diana Parker, Executive Director of Midwest Access Coalition, to talk about the other access barriers to abortion, healthcare in the time of COVID, and the critical importance of mutual aid!



    * https://midwestaccesscoalition.org/* https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/coronavirus-abortion-texas.html* https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/15/coronavirus-abortion-bans-complicated-access-texas-louisiana-alabama-tennessee/5201372002/



    Six Degrees of Abortion 



    Can Lizz Tie Bald Eagles to Abortion?



    53 min
  • Netroots Nation Preview

    We will be doing the podcast LIVE from Netroots Nation 2020 next week! Join the Feminist Sleeper Cell streaming on all platforms to get your morning dump of abortion access news, while meeting some amazing guests and activists as we take on anti-abortion hate groups and further examine the intersectional world of abortion access. 



    Gathered in the Sleeper Cell



    Lizz Winstead @lizzwinstead



    Moji Alawode-El @mojilocks



    Marie Khan @mkhanj 



    LINK TO SHOW NOTES (link goes to pod post on website where all this info lives)



    Netroots Nation Next Week! 



    Tune-in to see all of us at 10amET on August 13th, 14th and 15th! Plus we will virtually tabling for AAF as well, giving you the opportunity to talk to Lizz, Moji and Marie and find out more about how YOU can get involved. 



    * https://www.youtube.com/c/AbortionAccessForce



    Plus, check out the amazing line-up of sessions and experts at Netroots Nation 2020



    * https://www.netrootsnation.org/schedule-overview/



    Announcements



    SisterSong’s Collective Voices Presents- The Reproductive Justice Primer: A Summer Institute 



    * https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-reproductive-justice-primer-a-summer-institute-registration-113703472146



    All the housekeeping



    * Write a review/ give us 5 stars* Follow us on social @accessforce on Twitter/Instagram* Email us at podcast@aaforce.org! * Edited by Brad Pearson, theme song by Cory Eischen, The Purple Xperience



    DONATE TO Abortion Access Force/Feminist Sleeper Cell pod!!!!



    MAY THE ABORTION ACCESS FORCE BE WITH YOU!
    9 min
  • Episode 81: Jesus Is Not Your Business Partner

    Description: Moji and Marie grab the reigns for this episode of the Feminist Sleeper Cell! They unpack the racist anti-abortion rhetoric behind the Helms Amendment, have some choice words for Sen. Josh Hawley (who thinks the US Supreme Court actually cares what he thinks), and digest the unfortunate vote in Mexico that could have brought safe abortion to Veracruz. They also pinky swear they will never attend a fake-clinic conference in Disney World. PLUS INTERVIEW WITH SPECIAL GUEST Jessica Barry, author of a great summer abortion read!



    Gathered in the Sleeper Cell



    Moji Alawode-El @mojilocks



    Marie Khan @mkhanj 



    LINK TO SHOW NOTES (link goes to pod post on website where all this info lives)



    Quick Hits



    Can We Please End the Helms Amendment?



    * https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/jul/29/democrats-introduce-bill-to-repeal-anti-abortion-rule-for-us-overseas-aid* https://msmagazine.com/2020/07/29/first-ever-legislation-to-repeal-helms-amendment-abortion-is-health-care-everywhere-act/



    Disappointing News out of Mexico



    * https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-53584575* https://www.fondomaria.org/



    Josh Hawley is Confused on Whom SCOTUS Serves



    * https://rewire.news/article/2020/07/27/republicans-are-worried-about-november-so-sen-josh-hawley-is-talking-about-abortion/* https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-hawley-lays-down-new-antiabortion-marker-for-supreme-court-nominees/2020/07/26/52ed360a-cf73-11ea-8d32-1ebf4e9d8e0d_story.html



    Anti-Abortion Zealots Holding In-Person Conference IN FLORIDA



    * https://www.thedailybeast.com/pro-life-care-net-plans-conference-in-coronavirus-deadly-florida-path



    The Interview



    Moji and Marie talk with author Jessica Barry about her newest book Don’t Turn Around, an abortion access thriller!



    * https://www.harpercollins.com/products/dont-turn-around-jessica-barry



    Announcements



    Sign Reproaction’s Petition to Stop the In-Person Fake Clinic Conference 



    * https://www.exposefakeclinics.com/



    Add Your Voice to Stopping the Helm’s Amendment 



    * https://p2a.co/Ke8CxK7 



    Catch Lizz, Moji and Marie at Netroots Nation 2020



    * https://www.netrootsnation.org/



    Guess Who Owns www.operationsaveamerica.com . . .



    52 min

About Feminist Sleeper Cell

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Straight from the FEMINIST SLEEPER CELL, the Abortion Access Force podcast breaks down the ever-changing, ever bats**t, ever rageful news that affects our reproductive lives. Listen as hosts Lizz…