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In this episode of Needs Some Introduction, the hosts delve into the final episode of 'Presumed Innocent,' the Apple TV Plus adaptation starring Jake Gyllenhaal. Tensions rise as they discuss the pivotal episode entitled 'The Verdict.' Key topics include the revelation of the killer, the portrayal of the character Carolyn, and the family's complex dynamics. The discussion also touches upon the substantial financial investments by Apple TV Plus, the mixed success of its various shows, and possible future directions for the streaming service. The episode wraps up with reflections on the cultural implications of 80s and 90s thrillers, with recommendations for related media.

00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview

00:22 Spoiler Alert: Discussing the Killer

00:46 Comparing the Show to the Novel and Movie

02:15 Themes of Male Panic in Thrillers

04:14 Podcast Recommendations

05:04 Initial Thoughts on the Episode

05:46 Apple TV's Spending and Strategy

06:34 Critique of Apple TV's 'Lady in the Lake'

10:33 Revealing the Killer: Jaden's Role

15:30 Rusty's Conflict and Family Dynamics

18:34 The Fire Poker and Trial Evidence

25:39 Revisiting the First Episode

26:15 Rusty's Closing Statement

31:54 The Verdict and Its Fallout

33:24 The Final Reveal

37:35 Character Analysis: Carolyn

49:05 Unresolved Questions and Final Thoughts