This week on the show, we take a break from eldercare policy and best practices with a story of mindfulness and adventure. Previous guest Natalie Yates-Bolton – a senior lecturer in nursing at the University of Salford, Manchester in the United Kingdom – returns with her mother, Myra, for a conversation about their recent pilgrim walk through France.

Natalie and Myra recently walked 32 miles along the Camino de Santiago, a pilgrimage route that people have traveled since the 10th century. Along the way, Natalie and Myra experienced the simplicity, peace, and perspective that comes with walking through nature and participating in a centuries-old tradition.

As Myra, 80, advises listeners: "No matter what age you are, you should find and go on an adventure. Whether they're small or big, it doesn't really matter … With care and good support, everybody can still find and enjoy adventure in everyday life. And I really mean that – no matter what age you are."

See photos from the journey: bit.ly/45wY4Vq, bit.ly/3YWIjEF, bit.ly/44wbGPf Learn more about the Camino: https://santiago-compostela.net/ Join us in Detroit October 3-4 for a workshop on building innovative new care communities: https://thegreenhouseproject.org/education-events/workshops/ Explore cultural transformation services from The Green House Project and Pioneer Network: https://thegreenhouseproject.org/cultural-transformation/