First Draft with Sarah Enni

John Cho, actor, producer, writer, and author of debut middle grade novel, Troublemaker, with Sarah Suk.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• Little House on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls Wilder

• Fifth Chinese Daughter by Jade Snow Wong

• The Woman Warrior: Memoirs of a Girlhood Among Ghosts by Maxine Hong Kingston

• Sarah Suk, author of Made in Korea and the forthcoming The Space Between Here and Now

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• Seth Meyers, host of Late Night with Seth Meyers and former head writer for Saturday Night Live, talks about his debut picture book, I'm Not Scared, You're Scared with Rob Syegh. Hear his First Draft interview here

• Jacqueline Woodson, 2020 MacArthur Genius fellow, National Book Award winner, Newberry, Caldecott, and Coretta Scott King winner, former National Ambassador for Young People's Literature, and #1 New York Times bestselling author of Brown Girl Dreaming, Red at the Bone, Another Brooklyn, Before the Ever After and many, many more. She joins us to talk about her picture books with Rafael López, The Day You Begin and The Year We Learned to Fly. Hear her First Draft interview here.

• Maurene Goo, author of Somewhere Only We Know, The Way You Make Me Feel, I Believe in a Thing Called Love, and Since You Asked. Listen to her First Draft interviews here, here, and here.

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Kate Spencer is the co-host of the award-winning podcast Forever35, and author of the memoir The Dead Moms Club. She joins to talk about her first novel, In a New York Minute.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• Kate's first First Draft interview

• Bird by Bird by Anne Lamott

• Twilight by Stephenie Meyers

• Ice Planet Barbarians series by Ruby Dixon

• Plane Baes

• Song Exploder podcast

• Seth Meyers, host of Late Night with Seth Meyers and former head writer for Saturday Night Live, talks about his debut picture book, I'm Not Scared, You're Scared with Rob Syegh. Hear his First Draft interview here.

• Sweet Bobby podcast

• @90sArtSchool

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• Doree Shafrir, co-host of the Forever35 podcast and author of Startup, joins us to talk about her debut memoir, Thanks For Waiting: The Joy (& Weirdness) of Being a Late Bloomer. Hear her First Draft interview here.

• Casey McQuiston, New York Times bestselling author of Red, White, and Royal Blue, talks about their latest queer rom-com, One Last Stop. Hear their First Draft interview here.

• Jennifer E. Smith, author of YA novels The Statistical Probability of Love at First Sight, Hello, Goodbye, and Everything in Between and more. She's here to talk about her first picture book, Creature of Habit (with illustrator Leo Espinosa), and her first adult novel, The Unsinkable Greta James. Hear her First Draft interview here.

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Seth Meyers, host of Late Night with Seth Meyers and former head writer for Saturday Night Live, talks about his debut picture book, I'm Not Scared, You're Scared with Rob Syegh.

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• The Story of Babar: The Little Elephant, the first book in the Babar series by Jean de Brumhoff

• Spider Man: The Short Halloween written by Seth Meyers and Bill Hader

• Richard Scarry, author and illustrator of Trucks, A Day at the Airport, Cars and Trucks and Things That Go! and many more

• Jill Benjamin, Seth's writing partner from his Improv Olympic days

• Documentary Now! on IFC

• Watership Down (movie)

• The Secret of NIMH (movie)

• The Black Cauldron (movie)

• The Hobbit (movie)

• Seth Meyers on Sesame Street (with The Count and with Elmo)

• Sandra Boynton, author and illustrator of picture books like Snuggle Puppy: A Little Love Song, Barnyard Dance!, Pajama Time! and many more.

• Where's Waldo by Martin Handford

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• Jill Twiss, #1 New York Times bestselling author of A Day in the Life of Marlon Bundo and Emmy winning comedy writer on Last Week Tonight. Hear her First Draft interview here.

• John Green, #1 New York Times bestselling author of many young adult novels, including The Fault in Our Stars and Printz-winning Looking For Alaska, joins to discuss his new essay collection, The Anthropocene Reviewed. He is also one half of the vlogbrothers on YouTube and co-creator of educational series Crash Course. Hear his First Draft interview here.

• John Scieszka, former National Ambassador for Children's Literature and New York Times bestselling author best known for picture books with illustrator Lane Smith, including The True Story of the Three Little Pigs, The Stinky Cheese Man and Other Fairly Stupid Tales, Math Curse, and more. Hear his First Draft interview here.

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Jennifer E. Smith, author of YA novels The Statistical Probability of Love at First Sight, Hello, Goodbye, and Everything in Between and more. She's here to talk about her first picture book, Creature of Habit (with illustrator Leo Espinosa), and her first adult novel, The Unsinkable Greta James.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• Hear Jennifer E. Smith's first First Draft interview

• Illustrator Leo Espinosa

• St. Vincent (musician)

• A League of Their Own (movie)

• Katie Lovejoy, screenwriter for The Statistical Probability of Love at First Sight

• Vanessa Caswill, director of The Statistical Probability of Love at First Sight

• The cast of the movie includes: Hayley Lu Richardson, Ben Hardy, Rob Delaney, Jameela Jamil

• This is What Happy Looks Like by Jennifer E. Smith

• Field Notes on Love, which Jenn is adapting for the screen with Lauren Graham

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• Rebecca Serle, New York Times bestselling author of In Five Years, The Dinner List, and more, talks about her new novel, One Italian Summer. Hear her First Draft interview here.

• Emma Straub, New York Times-bestselling author of The Vacationers, Modern Lovers, Laura Lamont's Life in Pictures, and the short story collection Other People We Married, talks about her most recent novel, All Adults Here, out in paperback now. She and her husband own Brooklyn bookstore Books Are Magic. Hear her First Draft interview here.

• Catie Disabato, author of The Ghost Network and the new adult contemporary novel U Up? Hear her First Draft interview here.

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Rebecca Serle, New York Times bestselling author of In Five Years, The Dinner List, and more, talks about her new novel, One Italian Summer.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• Rebecca's first First Draft interview

• Leila Sales, author of

• "The Case for Cancelling Everything," by Yascha Mounk for The Atlantic

• The Brave Little Toaster (movie)

• Honey I Shrunk the Kids (movie)

• Anne of Green Gables by L. M. Montgomery

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• Jodi Picoult, #1 New York Times bestselling author of twenty-seven novels, including My Sister's Keeper, Nineteen Minutes, Small Great Things, and two young adult novels with daughter Samantha van Leer, Between the Lines and Off the Page. She joins to talk about her latest, Wish You Were Here. Listen to her First Draft episode here.

• Emma Straub, New York Times-bestselling author of The Vacationers, Modern Lovers, Laura Lamont's Life in Pictures, and the short story collection Other People We Married, talks about her most recent novel, All Adults Here, out in paperback now. She and her husband own Brooklyn bookstore Books Are Magic. Listen to her First Draft interview here.

• Catie Disabato, author of The Ghost Network and the new adult contemporary novel U Up? Listen to her First Draft interview here.

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Sabaa Tahir, #1 New York Times bestselling author of the Ember in the Ashes series talks about her new contemporary YA, All My Rage.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• Don't miss Sabaa's first First Draft interview, and her second First Draft interview!

• "The Ghosts of Our Motel," by Sabaa Tahir for Vox

• The Sky Beyond the Storm by Sabaa Tahir

• Nina LaCour, Printz-winning author of We Are Okay, and other contemporary YA titles like Everything Leads to You and Hold Still. Host of the Keeping a Notebook podcast and creator of the Slow Novel Lab and Writing Together. Hear Nina's first First Draft interview, and her second First Draft interview.

• Angie Thomas, #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Hate U Give, On the Come Up, Concrete Rose, and co-author of Blackout.

• Nicola Yoon, #1 New York Times bestselling author of Everything, Everything and The Sun Is Also a Star talks about her new YA, Instructions For Dancing and her brand new publishing venture: co-publisher of Joy Revolution, a Random House young adult imprint dedicated to love stories starring people of color. Hear her first First Draft interview, and her second First Draft interview.

• Jandy Nelson, Printz-winning author of I'll Give You the Sun and The Sky is Everywhere.

• Maurene Goo, author of Somewhere Only We Know, The Way You Make Me Feel, I Believe in a Thing Called Love, and Since You Asked. Hear her first First Draft interview, her second First Draft interview, and her third First Draft interview.

• Leigh Bardugo, #1 New York Times bestselling author of the Shadow and Bone series, the Six of Crows duology, the King of Scars duology, and adult contemporary fantasy novel, Ninth House. Hear her first First Draft interview here, her second First Draft interview here, and her third First Draft interview here.

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• Garth Nix, New York Times bestselling author of Sabriel, returns to the Old Kingdom series with his latest YA fantasy, Terciel & Elinor. Hear his First Draft interview here.

• Roseanne M. Brown, New York Times bestselling author of YA fantasy novels A Song of Wraiths and Ruin and its sequel, A Psalm of Storms and Silence. Hear her First Draft interview here.

• Chloe Gong, New York Times bestselling author of These Violent Delights and its sequel Our Violent Ends. Hear her First Draft interview here.

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Abdi Nazemian, screenwriter and author of Stonewall Honor book Like a Love Story talks about his most recent YA, The Chandler Legacies.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• Abdi's first First Draft interview

• TIME's 100 Best YA Books of All Time

• Rebecca Serle, author of The Dinner List, In Five Years, and the forthcoming One Italian Summer

• To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee

• Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger

• The Diary of Anne Frank by Anne Frank

• The White Lotus (TV show)

• The Gilded Age (TV show)

• Ordinary Joe (TV show now streaming on Hulu and Peacock)

• Deep Work: Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World by Cal Newport

• The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron

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• David Levithan, editorial director at Scholastic and the author of many young adult novels, including Boy Meets Boy, Every Day, and co-author with Rachel Cohn of Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist and Dash and Lily's Book of Dares. Hear his First Draft interview here.

• Catie Disabato, author of The Ghost Network and the new adult contemporary novel U Up? Hear her First Draft interview here.

• Casey McQuiston, New York Times bestselling author of Red, White, and Royal Blue, talks about their latest queer rom-com, One Last Stop. Hear their First Draft interview here.

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Adam Rubin, New York Times bestselling picture book author known for Dragons Love Tacos, Those Darn Squirrels!, Robo-Sauce and more with illustrator Daniel Salmieri, about his new collection of middle grade short stories, The Ice Cream Machine.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• "Weird Al" Yankovic

• Monty Python

• Mr. Bean

• The Far Side cartoon by Gary Larson (find the first collection, The Far Side, here)

• Calvin and Hobbes, cartoon by Bill Watterson (check out the first collection, Calvin and Hobbes)

• Klutz Books, like Juggling For the Complete Klutz, created by John Cassidy

• Exploratorium books like The Art of Curiosity

• Upright Citizens Brigade

• Improv Olympic

• Leo Burnett advertising agency

• Jon Scieszka, former National Ambassador for Children's Literature and New York Times bestselling author best known for picture books with illustrator Lane Smith, including The True Story of the Three Little Pigs, The Stinky Cheese Man and Other Fairly Stupid Tales, Math Curse, and more. Hear his First Draft interview here.

• Good Night, Good Night Construction Site

• Adam and Dan's Robo-Sauce video

• High Five by Adam Rubin and illustrated by Daniel Salmieri

• Gladys the Magic Chicken by Adam Rex illustrator Adam Rex

• El Chupacabras by Adam Rubin with illustrator Crash McCreery

• Trey Parker, co-creator of South Park

• Kurt Vonnegut (author of Slaughterhouse Five and more) lecture about The Shapes of Stories

• Illustrator Charles Santoso

• Cartoonist Liniers

• Illustrator Emily Hughes

• Illustrator Nicole Miles

• Seaerra Miller, illustrator

• Improvise: Scene From the Inside Out by Nick Napier

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• Jon Klassen, Caldecott Award-winning and New York Times bestselling author and illustrator of the I Want My Hat Back series, who is back with a book he wrote and illustrated: The Rock From the Sky.

• Ben Zhu, author, illustrator, and founder of Gallery Nucleus, talks about his debut picture book, Dessert Island.

• Oliver Jeffers, visual artist, climate activist, and author and/or illustrator of several New York Times bestselling picture books, including The Day the Crayons Quit, How to Catch a Star, The Fate of Fausto, and Here We Are, joins us to talk about his newest picture book, There's a Ghost In This House.

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Jon Scieszka, former National Ambassador for Children's Literature and New York Times bestselling author best known for picture books with illustrator Lane Smith, including The True Story of the Three Little Pigs, The Stinky Cheese Man and Other Fairly Stupid Tales, Math Curse, and more.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• The Decameron by Giovanni Boccaccio

• Jacqueline Woodson, 2020 MacArthur Genius fellow, National Book Award winner, Newberry, Caldecott, and Coretta Scott King winner, former National Ambassador for Young People's Literature, and #1 New York Times bestselling author of Brown Girl Dreaming, Red at the Bone, Another Brooklyn, Before the Ever After and many, many more. She joins us to talk about her picture books with Rafael López, The Day You Begin and The Year We Learned to Fly. Hear her First Draft interview here.

• Dr Seuss, author of How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Oh, the Places You'll Go!, Green Eggs and Ham and more

• Go, Dog, Go by P.J. Eastman

• Franz Kafka, author of The Metamorphosis, The Trial, The Castle, and more

• Jack London, author of The Call of the Wild, White Fang, and more

• Edgar Allen Poe, author of The Raven, The Masque of the Red Death, The Cask of Amontillado, and more

• Jon's Science Verse

• The Astronuts, Jon's series with Steven Weinberg

• Jonathan Baumbach, author of The Pavilion of Former Wives, Dreams of Molly and many more

• Thomas Pynchon, author of Gravity's Rainbow, Inherent Vice, and The Crying of Lot 49

• Gabriel Garcia Marquez, author of One Hundred Years of Solitude, Chronicle of a Death Foretold, and more

• Carlos Fuentes, author of Aura, The Death of Artemio Cruz, and more

• Charles McGrath, former editor of The New York Times Book Review and former deputy editor of The New Yorker. He is currently a writer at large for The New York Times

• Frog and Toad Are Friends by Arnold Lobel

• Boy: Tales From Childhood and Going Solo are autobiographical books written by Roald Dahl

• Vladimir Nabokov, author of Lolita

• Oliver Jeffers, visual artist, climate activist, and author and/or illustrator of several New York Times bestselling picture books, including The Day the Crayons Quit, How to Catch a Star, The Fate of Fausto, and Here We Are, joins us to talk about his newest picture book, There's a Ghost In This House. Listen to his First Draft interviews here and here.

• Battle Bunny by Mac Barnett and Jon Scieszka

• Matt de la Peña, author of seven critically acclaimed young adult novels including Mexican Whiteboy and Newbery Medal–winning author of Last Stop on Market Street talks about his newest collaboration with illustrator Christian Robinson, Milo Imagines the World. Listen to his First Draft interview here.

• Adam Rubin, author of Dragons Love Tacos, Those Darn Squirrels, Robo-Sauce and more with Daniel Salmieri

• The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle (TV show)

• Jon's autobiography, Knucklehead: Tall Tales and Mostly True Stories of Growing Up Scieszka

• Gone to the Woods: Surviving a Lost Childhood, a memoir by Gary Paulsen, author of Hatchet

• Monty Python

• Saturday Night Live

• Jon Klassen, Caldecott Award-winning and New York Times bestselling author and illustrator of the I Want My Hat Back series, who is back with a book he wrote and illustrated: The Rock From the Sky. Listen to his First Draft episodes here and here.

• The Far Side cartoon by Gary Paulsen

• Calvin & Hobbes by Bill Watterson

• Guys Read

• Kate DiCamillo, is one of six people to win two Newbery Medals, for her novels The Tale of Despereaux and Flora & Ulysses, and author of Newbery Honor book Because of Winn-Dixie, National Book Award finalist The Tiger Rising, as well as New York Times bestselling novels The Miraculous Journey of Edward Tulane, The Magician's Elephant, the Mercy Watson series, and more. DiCamillo was the U.S. National Ambassador for Young People's Literature for 2014 and 2015. Her most recent novel, Beverly, Right Here completes the trilogy of Raymie Nightingale and Louisiana's Way Home.

• Dog Man by Dave Pilkey, author of Captain Underpants

• Shannon Hale, author of Princess Academy, The Goose Girl, Austenland and more

• Adele Griffin, two-time National Book Award honoree and author of almost thirty books for Young Adult and middle grade readers, including The Unfinished Life of Addison Stone, The Becket List, and Sons of Liberty and Where I want to Be. Hear her First Draft interview here.

• Lisa Brown, illustrator of The Phantom Twin, The Airport Book and more

• Katherine Paterson, author of The Bridge to Terabithia, Jacob Have I Loved, and more

• Dave Shannon, author and illustrator of No, David!

• Loren Long, author and illustrator of Otis, Little Tree, and many more

• The Treehouse books (The 13-Story Treehouse all the way to The 143-Story Treehouse) by Andy Griffiths and Terry Denton

• The Rijksmuseum, the museum that has Rembrandts available online

• Jason Reynolds, New York Times bestselling author of critically acclaimed books, including National Book Award finalist Ghost, Newberry and Printz-honored Long Way Down, Coretta Scott King Honoree As Brave as You, and his latest, middle grade Look Both Ways, which was just named to the National Book Award Longlist for Young People's Literature. Listen to his First Draft interviews here and here.

• Walter Dean Myers, author of Monster, The Glory Field, Malcolm X: By Any Means Necessary

• Gene Luen Yang, former National Ambassador for Young People's Literature and author and illustrator of American Born Chinese

• The Rabbit hOle's Explor-A-Storium

• The Real Dada Mother Goose: A Treasury of Complete Nonsense by Jon Scieszka and Julia Rothman

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Swan Huntley is the author of adult literary novels The Goddesses, We Could Be Beautiful, and her newest, Getting Clean With Stevie Green.

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Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• "The Sociopath Who Loved Me Enough," by Swan Huntley in AutoStraddle

• Drinking: A Love Story by Carolyn Knapp

• Anne Hood, New York Times bestselling author of The Book That Matters Most, The Obituary Writer, and the upcoming Fly Girl, taught writing at the New School, where Swan discovered the Novel Template

• Election by Tom Perrotta

• The Artist's Way by Julie Cameron

• The MacDowell Colony

• Yaddo

• Swan's cards!

• Tarot For Change by Jessica Dore is the Tarot book I keep talking about!

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• Catie DiSabato, author of The Ghost Network and the new adult contemporary novel U Up? Hear her First Draft interview here.

• Mary H. K. Choi, New York Times bestselling author of Emergency Contact and Permanent Record and Yolk. Hear her First Draft interview here.

• Chandler Baker, New York Times bestselling author of Whisper Network, talks about her latest feminist thriller, The Husbands. Hear her First Draft interview here.

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