Garth Nix, New York Times bestselling author of Sabriel, returns to the Old Kingdom series with his latest YA fantasy, Terciel & Elinor.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• The Ragwitch by Garth Nix, his first book

• Jill Grinberg, President and founder of Jill Grinberg Literary Management, Garth's agent

• Newt's Emerald, Garth's regency romance with a fantasy twist

• Shade's Children, Garth's dystopian series

• The Hero and the Crown and The Blue Sword by Robin McKinley

• The Tombs of Atuan, the second in Ursula Le Guin's Earthsea series, which began with A Wizard of Earthsea

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• Kristen Cashore, New York Times bestselling author of the Graceling series, including Graceling, Fire, and Bitterblue, as well as Jane, Unlimited. She has returned to her fantasy world for her newest novel, Winterkeep.

• Victoria Aveyard, #1 New York Times bestselling author of the Red Queen series, talks about the first book in her new YA fantasy series, Realm Breaker.

• Ayana Gray, debut author of Beasts of Prey, which is being adapted into a Netflix film.

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Helen O'Hara, film critic, editor-at-large for Empire magazine and co-host of the Empire film podcast, talks about her newest non-fiction, Women vs Hollywood: The Fall and RIse of Women in Film and host of its accompanying podcast, Women vs Hollywood With Helen O'Hara.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• The Care Bears Movie (movie)

• My Little Pony: The Movie (movie)

• Black Panther (movie)

• Captain Marvel (movie)

• Terri White, former editor of Empire and author of Coming Undone: A Memoir

• Twilight (movie)

• Chris Hewitt, co-host of the Empire podcast

• Notting Hill (movie)

• Helen's other books about movies: Best Movies of the 80s and The Superhero Movie Book

• Liberating Hollywood: Women Directors and the Feminist Reform of 1970s American Cinema by Maya Montañez Smukler, (Ph.D., Cinema & Media Studies, UCLA) heads the research and study center at the UCLA Film & Television Archive.

• Shelley Stamp, film historian, professor at UCSC, and author of Lois Weber in Early Hollywood and Movie-Struck Girls: Women and Motion Picture Culture After the Nickelodeon

• Karen Ward Mahar, professor of history and the co-director of the American Studies Program at Siena College, and author of Women Filmmakers in Early Hollywood

• The Best Pick podcast

• The Golden Compass (movie)

• The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe (movie)

• Reservoir Dogs (movie)

• Home Alone (movie)

• Ava DuVerney directed Selma, A Wrinkle in Time, and many more films

• Squid Game (Netflix TV show)

• Parasite (movie)

• Becoming by Michelle Obama

• Wonder Woman (2017 movie)

• Jurassic World (movie)

• Petit Maman (movie)

• On the Basis of Sex (movie)

• Shut Up and Sing (documentary)

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• Janet Varney, Emmy-Nominated actor, comedian, writer, producer, and podcaster. She has appeared in dozens of TV shows, including You're the Worst, Take My Wife, Burning Love, Stan Against Evil, and Fortune Rookie, and the voice of Korra in The Legend of Korra. She is also the co-founder, creative director, and producer of SF Sketchfest: the San Francisco Comedy Festival (now in its 19th year!), and hosts The JV Club podcast.

• Lennon Parham and Jessica St. Clair, the comedians, actors, and screenwriters behind TV shows Best Friends Forever and Playing House. Jessica can be seen on the Netflix comedy Space Force, and Lennon starred in and directed episodes of Bless This Mess.

• Aminatou Sow and Ann Friedman, media mavens, co-hosts of the phenomenal Call Your Girlfriend podcast, and debut co-authors of friendship memoir Big Friendship: How We Keep Each Other Close.

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Benjamin Dreyer, vice president, executive managing editor and copy chief of Random House, and New York Times bestselling author of Dreyer's English: An Utterly Correct Guide to Clarity and Style and Dreyer's English (Adapted for Young Readers): Good Advice for Good Writing.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• "Meet the Guardian of Grammar Who Wants to Help You Be a Better Writer," by Sarah Lyall in The New York Times

• Before and After the Book Deal: A Writer's Guide to Finishing, Publishing, Promoting and Surviving Your First Book by Courtney Maum (hear Courtney weigh in on the traditional publishing process in Track Changes: Publishing 101)

• #1 New York Times bestselling author and Pulitzer Prize winner Elizabeth Strout, author of Olive Kitteridge, Olive Again, and the recent release Oh William!

• Shirley Jackson, author of The Haunting of Hill House, The Lottery, and more

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• Track Changes Bonus: Publishing From Every Angle A conversation between an author, agent, and editor to cover the ins and outs of the publishing process. The panel features Abigail Hing Wen, debut author of Loveboat Taipei; agent Joanna Volpe, president and literary agent at New Leaf Literary & Media; and Alvina Ling, Vice President and Editor-in-Chief at Little Brown Books for Young Readers (and co-host of the Book Friends Forever podcast). Listen here!

• Arthur Levine, legendary children's book editor, including of series such as Harry Potter and The Golden Compass. Formerly President and Publisher at Arthur A. Levine Books at Scholastic, Arthur founded independent publishing house Levine Querido.

• Amanda Maciel, executive editor at Scholastic as well as author of YA novels Tease and Lucky Girl, talks about how writing books made her an author-friendly editor, staying emotionally available during revisions, and the trouble with accepting that you have an impact on other people. Listen to the episode here!

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Elissa Sussman and Arielle Jovellanos, author and illustrator, respectively, of YA contemporary novel Drawn That Way. Elissa is also the author of Burn, Stray, and the upcoming adult novel, Funny You Should Ask. Arielle illustrated Evil Thing, a Cruelle de Ville backstory novel written by Serena Valentino, as well as graphic novel Black Star, written by Eric A. Glover.

This episode is brought to you by Revision Season, a seven-week virtual master class in novel revision led by award-winning author Elana K. Arnold. The Fall 2021 Session of Revision Season will run Oct 10 – Nov 28, and enrollment is now open!

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• Hear Elissa's First Draft interview here

• Glen Keane, 38-year veteran of Walt Disney Feature Animation and creator of Disney characters such as The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, The Beast, Tarzan, and Rapunzel.

• Howard Ashman, Oscar-winning lyricist, playwright, and stage director who wrote the lyrics for The Little Mermaid

• Frederator, an independent animation and media studio who produced Adventure Time, Bee and PuppyCat, and Bravest Warriors

• Pendleton Ward, creator of Adventure Time

• LAIKA studios, an animation production studio that created Coraline (movie)

• The Avengers (movie)

• Chris Evans, actor who portrays Captain America

• Babs Tarr, American illustrator and comic book artist who drew a run for Batgirl for DC

• Annie Wu, American illustrator and comic book artist who drew a run of Hawkeye for Marvel

• Janelle Asselin, former editor of DC comics

• Kevin Wada, illustrator

• Fresh Romance, the anthology which includes Arielle's comic, "School Spirit"

• Percy Jackson and the Olympians by Rick Riordan

• The Heroes of Olympus by RIck Riordan

• Elizabeth Bewley, literary agent at Sterling Lord Literistic, Inc.

• Waking Sleeping Beauty (documentary)

• Janet Sung, illustrator, designer, colorist

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• Chris Appelhans, writer and director of Netflix animated movie Wish Dragon, and illustrator of picture books Sparky! (written by Jenny Offill) and A Greyhound, a Groundhog (written by Emily Jenkins).

• Sarah Kuhn, author of the Heroine Complex series, Shadow of the Batgirl with Nicole Gaux for DC Comics, the Star Wars audiobook original Doctor Aphra, talks about her new young adult novel, From Little Tokyo, With Love.

• Jon Klassen, Caldecott Award-winning and New York Times bestselling author and illustrator of the I Want My Hat Back series, who is back with a book he wrote and illustrated: The Rock From the Sky.

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Ayana Gray, debut author of Beasts of Prey, which is being adapted into a Netflix film.

Today's episode of First Draft is brought to you by Tonight We Rule the World by Zack Smedley, out from Page Street Publishing on October 5th.

And by Revision Season, a seven-week virtual master class in novel revision led by award-winning author Elana K. Arnold. The Fall 2021 Session of Revision Season will run Oct 10 – Nov 28, and enrollment is now open!

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• As Told By Ginger (movie)

• Pete Knapp, literary agent with Park & Fine Literary and Media

• Stacey Barney, associate publisher of Nancy Paulsen Books

• Scrivener, writing software

• Beth Phelan, literary agent with Gallt & Zacker Literary Agency and founder of DiverseVoices Inc., (which is #DVpit / #DVart, DVcon, DVdebut and DVmentor)

• #MSWL is a twitter hashtag agents and editors use to let writers know what they are looking for.

• Pitch Wars

• Circe by Madeline Miller

• The Inklings interviews on Ayana's website

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• Kendare Blake, New York Times bestselling author of the Three Dark Crowns series, Anna Dressed in Blood, and more, talks about her new historical thriller, All These Bodies, and her upcoming YA novel set in the universe of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, In Every Generation. Hear her First Draft interviews here and here.

• Alaya Dawn Johnson, Nebula-winning author of YA novels The Summer Prince, Love is the Drug, and Trouble the Saints. Hear her First Draft interview here.

• Kristin Cashore, New York Times bestselling author of the Graceling series, including Graceling, Fire, Bitterblue, and Winterkeep, as well as Jane, Unlimited. Hear her First Draft interview here.

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Kendare Blake, New York Times bestselling author of the Three Dark Crowns series, Anna Dressed in Blood, and more, talks about her new historical thriller, All These Bodies, and her upcoming YA novel set in the universe of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, In Every Generation.

This episode is brought to you by The Devil Makes Three by Tori Bovalino, out from Page Street Press now!

And by Revision Season, a seven-week virtual master class in novel revision led by award-winning author Elana K. Arnold. The Fall 2021 Session of Revision Season will run Oct 10 – Nov 28, and enrollment is now open!

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• Hear Kendare's previous episode of First Draft here, and watch the Tell Me Everything University Bookstore (Seattle, WA) event featuring Sarah Enni, Kendare, and Somaiya Daud, author of YA sci-fi book Mirage and Court of Lions.

• Antigoddess by Kendare Blake

• Stephanie Perkins, New York Times bestselling author of Anna and the French Kiss and the horror novel There's Someone Inside Your House (watch the Netflix film adaptation Oct. 6!) talks about her newest scary book, The Woods Are Always Watching.

• In Cold Blood by Truman Capote

• Murder in the Heartland (movie)

• Natural Born Killers (movie)

• Capote (movie)

• Infamous (movie)

• Interview With a Vampire by Anne Rice

• Jocelyn Davies, editor at Disney

• Kieran Viola, director of editorial for Disney Hyperion

• Roswell (TV show)

• LOST (TV show)

• Cobra Kai (TV show)

• Kiersten White, New York Times bestselling, Bram Stoker Award-winning, and critically acclaimed author of many books, including the And I Darken trilogy, the Slayer series, the Camelot Rising trilogy, and her upcoming adult debut, Hide. Listen to her First Draft interview here.

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• Cassandra Clare, #1 New York Times bestselling author of the Shadowhunter Chronicles, the forthcoming Sword Catcher duology, and co-author of the Magisterium series. Hear her First Draft interviews here and here.

• Sabaa Tahir, #1 New York Times bestselling An Ember in the Ashes series, and the fothcoming All My Rage. Hear her First Draft interviews here and here.

• Victoria Aveyard, #1 New York Times bestselling author of the Red Queen series, talks about the first book in her new YA fantasy series, Realm Breaker. Hear her First Draft interviews here and here.

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Creator and host of First Draft, Sarah Enni, announces the launch of the First Draft Patreon, a way listeners can help support the show by pledging $5 or $10 a month. In exchange for that monthly donation, supporters will gain access to an exclusive community forum, get monthly video chats with Sarah, get 15% off First Draft merchandise, and get a shoutout at the top of a First Draft episode and on the First Draft supporter page.

If you sign up to support First Draft before Oct. 1, 2021, you will receive a Super Special Supporter Pack, which includes a personal note from Sarah Enni, First Draft swag (bookmark, pin, and sticker), and a surprise book! Sign up to get yours today!

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• The First Draft Patreon page

• The publishing infographics I create and try to share each week

• Callie Wright, freelance audio producer and editor

• Track Changes

• Donate to First Draft on PayPal

• Donate to First Draft on Venmo

• Follow First Draft on Instagram and Twitter

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Christine Riccio, New York Times bestselling author of Again, But Better and Better Together and creative force behind PolandBananasBooks, her BookTube channel with more than 400,000 subscribers, and co-host of Booksplosion, the largest book club on YouTube.

This episode is brought to you by Laura Sibson's Edie in Between, a modern-day Practical Magic about love, loss, and embracing the mystical, available now.

And by The Lost Girls: A Vampire Revenge Story by Sonia Hartl, out from Page Street Publishing now.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• Christine shared her perspective on promoting books on BookTube in the Track Changes Marketing and Publicity (Part 1) episode

• Booksplosion is the book club Christine cohosts with Katytastic and Jesse The Reader

• Sasha Alsberg, New York Times bestselling co-author with Lindsay Cummings of Zenith: The Androma Saga series (listen to their First Draft interview here) and creator of YouTube channel abookutopia

• The Parent Trap (movie - 1961) (movie - 1998)

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• Margot Wood, founder of Epic Reads, talks about her debut young adult novel, Fresh. Hear her interview here.

• Casey McQuiston, New York Times bestselling author of queer rom-coms Red, White, and Royal Blue and One Last Stop. Hear their First Draft interview here.

• Morgan Matson, New York Times bestselling author of Save the Date, The Unexpected Everything, and more answers listener questions about life, writing, and her new YA, Take Me Home Tonight. Hear her First Draft interviews here, here, and here!

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Jennifer Niven is the Emmy Award-winning #1 New York Times bestselling author of ten books, including YA novels All the Bright Places, Holding up the Universe, Breathless, and Take Me With You When You Go (with David Levithan).

This episode is brought to you by Laura Sibson's Edie in Between, a modern-day Practical Magic about love, loss, and embracing the mystical, available now.

And by The Splendor by Breeana Shields, out from Page Street Publishing now.

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• Penelope Niven, biographer and author of Carl Sandburg: A Biography and Carl Sandburg: Adventures of a Poet, Thornton Wilder: A Life, Steichen: A Biography, memoirist (Swimming Lessons: Life Lessons From the Pool, From Diving In to Treading Water) and co-author of James Earl Jones's autobiography, Voices and Silences.

• The Perfect Storm: A True Story of Men Against the Sea by Sebastian Junger

• Jon Krakauer, author of Into the Wild, Into Thin Air, Under the Banner of Heaven, Missoula, and more

• Carl Sandburg, three-time Pulitzer Prize-winning poet (for Cornhuskers and Complete Poems) and biographer (for his four-book series, Abraham Lincoln: The War Years).

• Will Schwalbe, author of The End of Your Life Book Club and Books For Living: Some Thoughts on Reading, Reflecting, and Embracing Life, and co-author of Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better with Dave Shipley

• Jennifer's original agent, John A. Ware, who passed away in 2013. Read his obituary in Publisher's Weekly.

• Jennifer's current agent, Kerry Sparks at the Levine Greenberg Rostan Literary Agency

• David Levithan, editorial director at Scholastic and the author of many young adult novels, including Boy Meets Boy, Every Day, and co-author with Rachel Cohn of Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist and Dash and Lily's Book of Dares.

• Ava Dellaira, author of Love Letters to the Dead and In Search of Us. Listen to her First Draft interviews here and here.

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• Nicola Yoon, #1 New York Times bestselling author of Everything, Everything and The Sun Is Also a Star talks about her new YA, Instructions For Dancing and her brand new publishing venture: co-publisher of Joy Revolution, a Random House young adult imprint dedicated to love stories starring people of color. Hear her First Draft interviews here and here.

• Morgan Matson, New York Times bestselling author of YA contemporary novels, including Save the Date, The Unexpected Everything, and Take Me Home Tonight. Hear her First Draft interviews here, here, and here.

• Mary H. K. Choi, New York Times bestselling author of Emergency Contact, Permanent Record and Yolk. Hear her First Draft interviews here and here.

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Stephanie Perkins, New York Times bestselling author of Anna and the French Kiss and the horror novel There's Someone Inside Your House (watch the Netflix film adaptation Oct. 6!) talks about her newest scary book, The Woods Are Always Watching.

This episode is brought to you by Laura Sibson's Edie in Between, a modern-day Practical Magic about love, loss, and embracing the mystical, available now!

Links to Topics Mentioned In This Episode:

• Hear the live episode where Stephanie and Sarah Enni talk about Sarah's debut, Tell Me Everything, at Malaprops Bookstore in Asheville, N. C.

• Hear Sara Zarr and Sarah Enni discuss the job of podcasting

• Acuity Scheduling is the software that I am using to schedule interviews

• Kerry Winfrey, author of romantic comedies Waiting For Tom Hanks, Not Like the Movies, and her newest, Very Sincerely Yours. She is also the author of YA novels Love and Other Alien Experiences and Things Jolie Needs to Do Before She Bites It. Hear our conversation here.

• Jane Friedman, publishing expert and author educator, wrote The Business of Being a Writer and the Hot Sheet newsletter (a must for all writers IMHO!)

• Charles Dickens, author of A Tale of Two Cities, A Christmas Carol, Great Expectations, and more

• Jane Austen, author of Pride and Prejudice, Sense and Sensibility, Emma and more

• NaNoWriMo, a.k.a. National Novel Writing Month (read Steph's 2015 Pep Talk for NaNoWriMo here!)

• Kate Testerman, agent and founder of kt literary

• Julia Straus-Gabel, President and Publisher, Dutton Children's Books, Penguin Random Houes, profiled in "Her Stinging Critiques Propel Young Adult Bestsellers," in The New York Times and "Meet the Editor: Julie Strauss-Gabel," in Publisher's Weekly

• John Green, #1 New York Times bestselling author of many young adult novels, including The Fault in Our Stars and Printz-winning Looking For Alaska, joins to discuss his new essay collection, The Anthropocene Reviewed. He is also one half of the vlogbrothers on YouTube and co-creator of educational series Crash Course. Hear his First Draft interview here.

• Gayle Forman, author of If I Stay, Where She Went, and many more

• Booklist online magazine

• Around the Writer's Block: Using Brain Science to Solve Writer's Resistance by Roseanne Bane

• Kiersten White, New York Times bestselling, Bram Stoker Award-winning, and critically acclaimed author of many books, including the And I Darken trilogy, the Slayer series, the Camelot Rising trilogy, and her upcoming adult debut, Hide.

• Fear Street, a series by R. L. Stine

• Scream (movie)

• I Know What You Did Last Summer (movie)

• My Favorite Murder (podcast)

• Henry Gayden, screenwriter who wrote Shazam and the adaptation of There's Someone Inside Your House

• Creep (movies)

• The Overnight (movie)

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• Casey McQuiston, New York Times bestselling author of Red, White, and Royal Blue, talks about their latest queer rom-com, One Last Stop. Hear their First Draft interview here.

• Rebecca Serle, television writer, producer, and New York Times bestselling author of six books, including When You Were Mine , The Edge of Falling, The Dinner List, and her newest, In Five Years, out now. She co-developed the hit TV adaptation of her YA series, Famous in Love. Hear her First Draft interview here.

• Leigh Bardugo, #1 New York Times bestselling author of the Shadow and Bone series, the Six of Crows duology, and the King of Scars duology, discusses her first adult novel, Ninth House. Hear her First Draft interviews here and here.

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