Here's a short clip from our interview with Ken Belson, who writes about sports, power and money at the NFL and for The New York Times. He is the author of a new book, "Every Day Is Sunday: How Jerry Jones, Robert Kraft, and Roger Goodell Turned the N.F.L. Into a Cultural & Economic Juggernaut." In this preview clip of the full interview later this week, Belson discusses how the NFL owners look at sports gambling. You can subscribe to this podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more.

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