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Fisher & Frey PLC+


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Episode 041: PLC Plus with Nancy Frey & Doug Fisher

Join us for this discussion with the potent pair Doug Fisher & Nancy Frey! We learn about their new book, PLC+ and the five questions that get to the heart of what collaboration time should look like in schools. Stay tuned until the end for a special promo code for our listeners for the PLC+ Institutes the authors will be hosting in Colorado in October!

Connect with Fisher & Frey

Website: www.fisherandfrey.com/ | Twitter: @DFisherSDSU; @NancyFrey | Newest Book: PLC Plus, Corwin Press

Connect with Vrain Waves

Website: vrainwaves.com | Twitter: @VrainWaves | Becky Twitter: @BeckyEPeters | Ben Twitter: @mrkalb

Links & Show Notes

  • Out of Our Heads & Into the Classroom: (01:30)
    • American Express: Simple Guide to Lean Meetings
    • Robyn Jackson on weekly team meetings
    • Have an agenda / protocol
    • Techless meetings
    • Pre-mortem from Daniel Pink
    • Collaborative notes & DRIs
    • Toby - Chrome Extension
    • Introduction to Fisher & Frey & PLC Plus (08:12)
      • Their School: Health Sciences High & Middle College in San Diego
      • Questions: Where are we now? & the importance of pre-assessments
        • Side note: common questions for PLC work come from DuFour, DuFour, Eaker, & Many, 2010 as a PLC foundation: Learning by Doing: A Handbook for Professional Learning Communities at Work; we acknowledge this foundational work when discussing PLCs :
          • What do we want students to learn? (essential standards)
          • How will we know if they have learned? (team-developed common assessments)
          • What will we do if they don’t learn? (systematic interventions)
          • What will we do if they already know it? (extended learning)
          • Collective Efficacy
          • Graham Nuthall, Hidden Lives of Learners
            • Students already know between 40-50 percent of what the teacher is teaching (Nuthall, 2007)
            • Equity: Removal of Barriers vs. intervention as responses to student data
            • Activator: Someone to guide the group
            • What are PLCs getting wrong? (13:21)
              • Emphasis on the structural conditions can overwhelm the focus and mission of the group
              • PLC must continually reinvest in itself
              • Lack of attention to instruction - “How do we move learning forward?”
                • Literacy example (16:49)
                • Curriculum / Instruction / Assessment
                • Recent research that ~20% of in-class tasks are on grade level TNTP’s The Opportunity Myth - and an article from EdWeek
                • PLC+ Protocol - Assignment analysis (from The Education Trust) (19:34)
                  • Equity in Motion work from The Education Trust
                  • Trust and the importance of Relational Conditions (21:18)
                    • Activator helps keep the conversation moving
                    • Protocols provide consistency
                    • PLC+ / PD (22:57)
                      • Roughly a 1 to 3 ratio - Full staff Professional learning to PLC+ Time
                      • Credibility & Efficacy (24:33)
                        • Teacher Credibility: Trust, Competence, Dynamism, Immediacy
                        • Self-Efficacy and Collective Efficacy (27:17)
                          • Albert Bandura’s research on self-efficacy -
                            • From Leading Impact Teams, by Bloomberg & Pitchford (& based on Bandura’s research, as well as Goddard, Hoy, & Hoy): Efficacy = Mastery Moments, Vicarious Experience, Feedback, and Trust
                            • “Where are we going?” and “Where are we now?” (31:08)
                              • 5 Questions in PLC+: Where are we going? Where are we now? How do we move learning forward? What did we learn today? Who benefited and who did not benefit?
                              • Bringing data to the PLC+ (33:22)
                                • Student feedback
                                • Equity / Cognitive Bias / The Decisions we choose to make: (35:52)
                                  • Quote from PLC+: “Underlying every decision about what we choose to gather data on is an unspoken decision about what we won’t look at.”
                                  • Data should be aligned to team’s common challenge; then did we impact learning or not?
                                    • Invite students to PLC+ times for feedback
                                    • Protocols for learning walks
                                      • Microteaching protocols
                                      • What did we learn today? Every single day we should be formatively assessing
                                      • Scheduling logistics (44:56)
                                        • Two PLC+s - Grade level & Content level
                                        • Vertical & Horizontal conversations are necessary
                                        • Grading at their school (48:19)
                                          • Competency-Based / Mastery of Standards
                                          • Formative homework & classwork
                                          • All Learning is Social Emotional (50:41)
                                            • Social Emotional Academic Learning
                                            • Removing institutional barriers vs. Intervention (54:27)
                                              • Support each learner individually - help them find a way to mastery
                                              • Special offer for Vrain Waves Listeners!! (58:50)
                                                • Promo Code: VRAINWAVES
                                                • Go to corwin.com/PLCColorado to register; Oct 3 & 4 in Denver at the Curtis Hotel
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