Some people love going to the gym. Some people hate it. But what if there was a pill that could replace exercise? Today’s future might actually be closer than you think.

Today’s guests:

Nicola Twilley, co-host of Gastropod and New Yorker writer

David Eveleth, my dad and biotech expert

Natalia Mehlman Petrzela, historian and co-host of Past Present

Sigmund Loland, philosopher of sports at Norwegian School of Sport Sciences

Casey Johnston, editor at The Outline, author of Ask a Swole Woman

Robert, my boyfriend

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