In this week's podcast episode, I sat down with Florence Gaub, the Director of Research at the NATO Defense College in Rome. A World Economic Forum’s Global Future Council member, and Vice-President of the European Forum Alpbach, Florence is a master of strategic foresight and international security. Her latest book, The Future, is a must-read, exploring how humanity's visions of tomorrow have shifted in different historical contexts. Our conversation spanned various domains, from the fascinating work being done at NATO to her new book, which I read and absolutely loved. Although it’s not out in English yet, I have been assured that the release is on the horizon – so keep your eyes peeled!

In our conversation, Florence walked us through her career, the impact of her recent publication, and, as always, the four books which have been most pivotal in her life and her work. From a mysterious Dutch novel from her childhood to Isaac Asimov's The Foundation, each pick tells a unique story about how we perceive time, and how this has changed in line with the maturation of our societies. Excitingly, Florence also shared some insights into the methodology of strategic foresight and the ethical implications of forecasting the future – and the technologies she thinks we’ll look back on and laugh at in 100 years time.

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Florence’s four books were:

The Towers of February, Tonke Dragt (1973)

The Foundation Part 1, Isaac Asimov (1951)

Nos Derniers Festins, Chantal Pelletier (2019)

Julia, Sandra Newman (2023)