Following the Fire

By Following The Fire

Like many others, we (Steve & Nathan) are on a spiritual journey of deconstruction and reconstruction to find what God truly wants of us. Just like Israel followed the pillar of fire in the desert... more

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September 08, 202129: Know Thyself: How the Enneagram can help you grow in your faith
Enneagram trainer and life coach Krista Cannon joins us today to talk all things enneagram. She clears up a lot for us, like: What it is, what it isn't, how to use it, and how not to. We also talk about how understanding who YOU are can really help you in your faith journey.
Enneagram of Personality
Enneagram symbol
Book: “The Road Back to You”
Book: “The Path Between Us”
Automatic writings
Myers-Briggs Type Indicatoryers-Briggs Type Indicator
Podcast: Science Diction
“I do not understand what I do…” - Romans 7:15-20
Book: “With” by Skye Jethani
The Daily Examen practice
Book: “Man’s Search for Meaning” by Viktor Frankl
Krista’s Enneagram Typing Guide
RHETI Enneagram Typing Test
Podcast: Sleeping at Last
Book: “The Sacred Enneagram” by Chris Heuertz
Book: “The Enneagram of Belonging” by Chris Heuertz
Krista Cannon’s Instagram
Special Guest: Krista Cannon.
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September 01, 202128: Don't Do It Alone: The spiritual impact of life-changing diseases
In this episode Steve shares his story of being diagnosed with Young Onset Parkinson's Disease at 41 and then being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis at age 43. He talks about how dealing with those 2 diseases has impacted his faith and spiritual life.
NEXT BOOK CLUB: Episode 30 - September 15: "The Making of Biblical Womanhood" by Beth Allison Barr - (buy it here)
Daniel Wheat's new song, "Joy" (listen on Spotify here)
Young Onset Parkinson's Disease
What is Multiple Sclerosis?
Book: “With” by Skye Jethani
Parkinson Association of the Rockies
Steve’s nonprofit and ride across Colorado: Ride for PD
Pedaling 4 Parkinson’s
The Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research
demyelination
Diagnosing MS
oligoclonal band
Picture of Steve's daily medications
Video: Bible Project - “Soul”
Mr Rogers
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1h 30min
August 25, 202127: Imaginary Other: Surviving arguments with relationships intact
Probably none of you need to hear this episode, since none of you have ever had an argument, but in case you do find yourself in an argument, this episode is for you. Nathan, a self-appointed expert on arguing, gives us the ABC’s of arguments. How to approach them, how to diffuse them, and how to know when to stop pushing and let go. We also talk about true Scotsmen, belief vs. faith, and when losing on purpose is Christ-like.
Intro
Nathan was a debate nerd
Steve was a music nerd
They both somehow avoided getting beaten up for it
John Hughes films
Film: Rocky
“Belief” by John Mayer (Spotify Link)
Advice for Arguments
Assume Positive Intent
Big Picture
Curiosity
Ted Lasso
Nathan is cheap
Jesus talking to the Syrophoenician (Canaanite) woman - Matthew 15:22-28
Calling of Matthew - Matthew 9:9-13
Calling the fishermen - Calling the fishermen
“If you’re at the altar…” - Matthew 5:23-24
Take the log out of your own eye first - Matthew 7:3-5
Song: “Man In the Mirror” by Michael Jackson Spotify link
Alan Watts
Parable of the Good Samaritan - Luke 10:25-37
Cartoon: Somebody’s wrong on the internet
“Such a time as this…”Esther 4:14
Gandalf quote
Lord’s Prayer - Lord’s Prayer
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1h 13min
August 18, 202126: Hippie Church: More adventures in the new and the different
Today we’re celebrating a new milestone in Following the Fire history - we’ve passed 25 episodes! And it’s Steve’s turn to tell about his family’s first foray into the “other churches” world.
Intro
It’s our silver anniversary!
Steve & Nathan are apparently NOT gift-givers
We have a Patreon!
Visiting the UCC
Tv show: “Star Wars: The Clone Wars”
Book: “Faith After Doubt” by Brian McLaren
“Ghosting”
United Churches of Christ
Plymouth Congregational church
“Casa del Sol Prayer of Jesus” by John Philip Newell
Pilgrim history
Anglican Church
Song: “Imagine” by John Lennon
Book: “The New Testament” translated by David Bentley Hart
Pseudepigrapha
Song: “Take Five” by Dave Brubeck
Visiting the DoC
Disciples of Christ
Restoration Movement
Heart of the Rockies Church
Heartside Hill project
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August 11, 202125: Book Club: "A Church Called TOV" by Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer
Today we have with us Laura Barringer, co-author of “A Church Called Tov”. We had a fabulous conversation with her and learned so much. If you haven’t read the book yet, don’t worry - Nathan gives a great summary before we get in to the discussion. Do be sure to grab a copy for yourself, though! Links are in the show notes.
Book: “A Church Called Tov” by Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer
Nathan sums up the book
Laura introduces herself
Willow Creek Church
Article: "After years of inquiries, Willow Creek pastor denies misconduct allegations"
Scot McKnight
Yom Kippur
Beatitudes
Book: “The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth” by Beth Allison Barr
Book: “Extraordinary Women of Christian History: What We Can Learn from Their Struggles and Triumphs”
MMPI Diagnostic Test
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Book: “When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse” by Chuck DeGroat
Mr. Rogers
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Special Guest: Laura Barringer.
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58min
August 04, 202124: Pushing Past the Weird: Getting back out there and visiting new churches
Looking for a new faith community is gonna be weird at first, but that’s just part of the process, like it or not. Nathan decided to be an overachiever and visited two churches in one day and he tells us all about his experiences. We also start off the episode with some long overdue shout-outs.
SHOUT OUTS!
Heather’s (Nathan’s wife) Instagram: @hcat_23
Pacific Crest Trail
Our international listeners (20+ countries so far!)
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Holy Post Podcast
Bible Project Podcast
Sunday Two-Fer
Nathan visits a couple Episcopal churches
There are too many churches
Episcopal Churches
C.S. Lewis
NT Wright
Dorothy Sayers
Nicene Creed
High Church
Passing the Peace
Liturgical Calendar
Gospel of Mark
Mark 6
Episode 14 - in which we discuss our criteria for finding a church
Cathedral of the Plains
Nadia Bolz-Weber
Sarah Bessey
Crazy walls
Bonus episode: The Leaven of Nathan
United Church of Christ
Romans 16:16
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53min
July 28, 202123: NakedPastor: Artist David Hayward discusses his cartoons & his faith journey
Nathan and Steve got to sit down with David Hayward, aka, “NakedPastor” for a fabulous conversation. David is an author, artist, cartoonist, and all-around super nice guy (not just because he’s Canadian). We got to hear of his journey from being a pastor for 30 years to being the cartoonist for deconstructing Christians, we talked about his motivations for doing what he does, and much more!
Following the Fire book club book: "A Church Called Tov" by Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer
NakedPastor.com
The Far Side
“Images of Jesus” series
“Sophia” series
Cartoon: “Two Views of God”
Cartoon: “I believe I’m right”
Jesus eating with the sinners Mark 2:13-17
Book: “The Art of Coming Out”
Cartoon: “Love Versus the Bible”
Author: Eugene Peterson
Cartoon: “Nothing in Common”
Book: “Questions Are the Answer”
Book: “A Cloud of Unknowing”
First “Sophia” drawing: “Fearless”
Book: “The Liberation of Sophia”
Sophia drawing: “Cave”
Sophia drawing: “Light”
“My burden is light…” Matthew 11:28-30
Book: “Till Doubt Do Us Part”
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Special Guest: David Hayward.
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1h 4min
July 21, 202122: Trans-Christian: A conversation with Natalie Drew about following God as a trans woman
Today we’re talking to Natalie Drew. Natalie is a devout Christian, pacifist, and kind of a theology nerd who also happens to be a trans woman. She shares her story with us of struggling with life before beginning her transition after having a wife and 2 kids, how her marriage weathered the storm, and she gives some great advice to other LGBTQ people in the church, as well as for the rest of the church. I do want to let you know that suicide does come up a few times in this episode.
Natalie Drew: Twitter - @natdrew79
Book: “Jesus the Gentle Parent”
Raw Tools
“Deadnaming”
Gender Dysphoria
Gender Identity
Paul’s “thorn in the flesh” 2 Corinthians 12:6-9
Naked Pastor cartoons
“The Most Sincere Prayer”
Open Theism
Greg Boyd
Book:“Crucifixion of the Warrior God” by Greg Boyd
Merism
Natalie’s Blog
Hebrews 1:3
1 Samuel 8
Sacrificial love of Christ - Philippians 2:5-11
Heather’s Twitter (Natalie’s wife): @heatherdrew
Cisgender
Documentary: “Disclosure”
Bridget Eileen Rivera
Austen Heartke
Biblical love: 1 Corinthians 13
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Special Guest: Natalie Drew.
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1h 32min
July 14, 202121: Good Tomatoes: When taking things seriously just means “Love”
On today’s podcast we’re discussing a variety of topics including how our deconstruction’s going, what relationships look like when they’re not connected to a church, the Bible and being “right” and, unsurprisingly, it all ends up pointing to love.
Intro
The band is back together
How’s Steve’s deconstruction going?
Book: “The Long Tail”
Relationships outside of church
It’s possible to have friends who are NOT at church with you
The Bible & Rightness
Book: “Predictably Irrational”
“Let’s start at the very beginning….” ”Sound of Music - “Do Re Mi”
“Rooted and established in love” - Ephesians 3:14-19
Love sums up the Law and the Prophets - Matthew 22:38-40 and Romans 13:9-10 and Galatians 5:14
It’s about love
Become like children - Matthew 18:2-4
“If there’s a group of people that we’re gonna be disappointed that God’s okay with them, we might be doing it wrong” — Nathan
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1h 21min
July 07, 202120: Book Club: "Jesus & John Wayne" by Kristen Kobes Du Mez
We've invited Valerie Quirey (American, Canadian, former Brazilian, & church planter) to discuss possibly the most unsettling (yet important!) book any of us have read this year. The discussion was fantastic!
Book club book: “Jesus & John Wayne” by Kristen Kobez Du Mez
Special guest: Valerie Quirey
Valerie’s Twitter: @val_q
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1h 34min

FAQs about Following the Fire:

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The podcast currently has 70 episodes available.