Zach and Jill are looking to re-do their premarital counseling after a spirited debate over the Final Four. It's an entertaining start as Jill draws attention to Zach’s eventful week, which also includes a tiff with his co-host, Brandon.

The trio dives into the Gospel of Mark, exploring the profound moment when Jesus calls His disciples. They leave everything behind to follow Him, but do they truly understand what they’re getting into? And do we grasp what it means to follow Jesus in our own lives?

This episode delves into the true meaning of "following," which has become a reductive term in 2025. To genuinely follow is to know deeply, to be close behind, and to chase after. Jesus is inviting us into a life not defined by works but by grace—a life where we come to know Him and His love so profoundly that it shapes every aspect of our lives. In a merit-based world where we’re constantly compared and judged by our accomplishments, it’s challenging to shed that mentality as we walk with Christ.

Through personal anecdotes and theological insights, Zach, Jill, and Brandon uncover the burdens of a works-based faith and the refreshing freedom found in embracing God’s grace. Responding to His call not only brings about transformation within ourselves but also integrates us into a loving community—a community that Jesus builds within us as we embrace our role as “fishers of men.”

Tune in for a compelling discussion on grace, discipleship, and the abundant life Jesus invites us all to experience!

In this episode:

Mark 1 verses 16-20

2 Timothy 2 verse 1