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In this solo episode, I reflect on Posaidon's outlook for nature finance in 2025, highlighting why it's a pivotal moment for forest investment. With rising demand for nature-based climate solutions, global biodiversity concerns, and a shift toward renewable products, forests are uniquely positioned to help asset owners meet fiscal regulatory requirements—while delivering strong returns. Yet, new forest investment strategies are slow to close. Beyond the usual hurdles like track record and pipeline, what about sustainability challenges? I break down five key sustainability reasons your fund isn’t closing — and how to fix them. Plus, I offer a free advisory call for those looking to refine their sustainability approach.
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Posaidon Capital: Nature Finance Market Outlook 2025
Host and Forestry Investment Expert: Shauna Matkovich - The ForestLink
Producer and Editor: Magdalena Laas - Unscripted Creatives
01:34
Quote – Nature Finance Market Outlook 2025
03:03
Interesting time for forest investment (great opportunities)
03:48
Questions to ask — when investment strategy does not succeed in raising capital
04:19
Sustainability factors holding back forest investment strategy from landing investors
05:13
Reason # 1: weak sustainability ethos
07:04
Possible solutions
08:22
Reason #2: no point of difference in sustainability strategy objectives from peers
09:06
Possible solutions
09:48
Reason #3: SFDR Article 8, 9, or EU Taxonomy alignment
10:27
Overview – SFDR Article 8
10:38
Overview – SFDR Article 9
10:48
EU Taxonomy
11:19
Possible solutions
12:12
Reason #4: weak sustainability track record
13:06
Possible solutions
14:33
Reason #5: wrong investors
15:07
Possible solutions
Nature by MaxKoMusic/Soundcloud
Sopwell Woodlands and Scohaboy Bog SAC, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, IRELAND by wild_rumpus/Soundcloud
Ambient Documentary by Sound Guru/Pixabay
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Today, Maurice Ryan, Director of Business Development at Green Belt, joins me in conversation. We dig into the voluntary approach of biodiversity net gain that Green Belt applies to some of its forest assets. At this point, biodiversity net gain is not legislated in Ireland as in other jurisdictions. Still, Maurice is finding that some forest owners and capital providers are nonetheless interested in reshaping low-production areas into highly productive ones in nature. We discuss what is needed to scale this approach in Ireland and how encouraging or accelerating natural regeneration is a pragmatic way to restore biodiversity to a site. Maurice explains the breadth of biodiversity data they collect to demonstrate the improvements on the sites where they take this approach. We talk about how to bring this biodiversity net gain approach to other jurisdictions and the importance of stakeholder engagement when defining biodiversity objectives.
Greenbelt
Maurice email: [email protected]
Apple tree (Malus domestic)
Host/Expert: Shauna Matkovich - The ForestLink
Producer and editor: Magdalena Laas - Unscripted Creatives
01:50
Intro to Maurice and Greenbelt
04:20
Production forestry in Ireland &
08:33
Definition of biodiversity net gain
11:27
Approach in operations under regulations
14:12
Main challenges with approach
17:16
Corporate or institutional investors?
19:06
Irish governmental initiatives?
21:06
Best type of land for project
24:12
Assessments?
27:42
Costs and additionality?
31:48
Local land ownership & expansion of more biodiversity-enriching projects
36:52
Insights gained that can be used by other jurisdictions
39:14
Exciting time in forestry
40:23
Actionable advice
41:34
Contact details
Nature by MaxKoMusic/Soundcloud
Sopwell Woodlands and Scohaboy Bog SAC, Cloughjordan, Co
Tipperary, IRELAND by wild_rumpus/Soundcloud
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Today, I’m joined by Dr. Elias Ayrey, co-founder and chief science officer, and Mary Ignatiadis, forest economics and policy expert at Renoster. In this conversation, we view forest carbon investing through the lens of change theory. We talk about the long-term opportunity cost of forest carbon projects, and what investors need to consider to ensure that these projects are truly a solution for integrated forest landscape improvement. We discuss the essential distinctions between objective setting in markets like the US versus the Global South, and considerations for large, institutionally owned land versus smallholder-owned land. We tackle the controversy around generating carbon credits from commercial plantation forestry head-on. And, of course, we learn about Renoster and its essential work in helping investors and carbon credit buyers do due diligence on the quality of forest carbon projects.
Renoster
LEAF Coalition
Symbiosis Coalition
Trees: American chestnut (Castanea dentata) & Eastern Hemlock (Tsuga canadensis)
Host: Shauna Matkovich - The ForestLink
Producer and editor: Magdalena Laas - Unscripted Creatives
01:44
Elias’ professional background & Renoster
03:05
Mary’s professional background & Renoster
05:34
Long term impacts should investors consider? Understand complete theory of change
09:13
But, what is the reality?
11:28
Investor coalitions
13:44
How would KPIs differ depending on the context, including small hold participants? (US market)
16:48
And any differences between the Global North and South?
19:43
Different KPIs in these regions?
22:36
Need both productive active timber management and forest carbon management
25:30
Balance between raising the value and bringing down costs
30:10
Percentage of these are avoided deforestation projects versus afforestation reforestation projects?
34:47
Questions of additionality and leakage are inherently financial
36:08
Carbon credits today
37:32
Applications of tools in Renoster’s work?
39:04
Project developers or buyers?
39:28
Future of carbon markets
43:05
Future of Renoster
44:09
Actionable advice
Nature by MaxKoMusic/Soundcloud
Sopwell Woodlands and Scohaboy Bog SAC, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, IRELAND by wild_rumpus/Soundcloud
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Today, I’m joined by Craig MacKenzie, Senior Lecturer in Nature Finance at the University of Edinburgh Business School. Over Craig’s career, he has worked in asset management and transitioned to academia. He also advises several public bodies on land use change. From this vantage point, Craig shares his insights on the opportunities and challenges for scaling UK Carbon Forestry, where a significant roadblock is attracting institutional investors. We talk about the massive reduction in forest cover that has taken place in the UK over the centuries, and how the UK’s commitment to net zero is starting to reverse this trend. Despite the primarily well-received Woodland Carbon Code (WCC) and other favourable policies, the economics still don’t stack up to meet investors’ return requirements when compared to the risks associated with carbon credit price volatility and the long horizons for generating credits in the UK. But things are changing. Tune in to find out what’s in the pipeline for the sector that may make UK carbon forestry much more attractive to institutional investors, and support turning the UK’s net-zero ambitions into reality.
Craig Mackenzie on LinkedIn
Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB)
UK Woodland Carbon Code
Scottish Land Commission
University of Edinburgh Business School
Peatland
Beach tree (Fagus sylvatica)
01:26
Craig’s background
03:13
What encompasses UK carbon forestry
06:38
Woodland carbon code
07:43
UK forest cover
10:57
Opportunities to diversify/overlap land use (mostly segregated)
14:33
Invest in UK carbon forestry
18:34
Benefits/subsidies
21:01
Capital providers
26:08
Changes needed to attract more institutional private funding/investment
32:51
Carbon credits insurance products
34:23
Woodland Code UK – insurance
35:56
Biodiversity net gain legislation
41:17
Actionable advise
42:57
Contact details
Nature by MaxKoMusic/Soundcloud
Sopwell Woodlands and Scohaboy Bog SAC, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, IRELAND by wild_rumpus/Soundcloud
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Today, I speak with Jessica Smith, Head of Nature at UNEP Finance Initiative, about the growing private sector interest in nature finance. She highlights the need for a common taxonomy to reduce investment hesitancy and notes that timberland remains a key nature-positive option for institutional investors. We explore the investment gap between the Global North and South, strategies for stakeholder engagement in areas with unclear tenure rights, and how to phase capital across a project’s life cycle. Jessica concludes with a strong call to eliminate deforestation from investment portfolios.
Finance for Nature Positive paper
PRB Sector guidance for forestry, agriculture, and mining
Short article on this guidance
Finance roadmap
Cali Card Report
Managing biodiversity risk exposure?
Do investors care about biodiversity?
UNEP Finance Initiative
Jessica Smith on LinkedIn
Favorite tree: Eucalyptus
Host: Shauna Matkovich - The ForestLink
Producer and editor: Magdalena Laas - Unscripted Creatives
01:04
Jessica’s background and work
03:04
Key lessons for nature from global events
05:18
Finance for nature positive
09:04
Principles for responsible banking specter action guidance for agricultural, forestry, mining sectors
11:12
How to get private investment in nature-based assets
15:31
Strategies to be nature positive in timber-focus investment
21:54
What should asset managers look out for? Red flags
27:44
Importance of data collection
32:34
Blended finance
36:12
Attract impact capital & investors as ecosystems in themselves
38:53
Nature on climate COP agenda 2025 – eliminate deforestation, invest in nature positive solution
40:20
Actionable advice
Nature by MaxKoMusic/Soundcloud
Sopwell Woodlands and Scohaboy Bog SAC, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, IRELAND by wild_rumpus/Soundcloud
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Today I’m joined by Paul Brannen, Director of Public Affairs at the European Confederation of Woodworking Industries & The European Organisation of Sawmill Industry AND author of a recent book, Timber! How wood can save the world from climate breakdown. In our conversation, Paul digs into the details surrounding the climate benefit of building with wood. We compare the carbon footprints of wood, concrete and steel (did you know that concrete is responsible for 8% of global emissions)! We talk about the cost savings of using wood in the built environment. We explain that despite the financial and climate merits, and supportive regulatory environment – the building sector still suffers from convention and doing things the way they’ve always been done. We discuss the importance of circularity in using wood in construction, and finally – how investors can support the whole value chain for enhanced climate and financial benefit.
Paul Brannen on LinkedIn
Book: Timber! How wood can save the world from climate breakdown
The European Confederation of Woodworking Industries (CEI-BOIS)
Favorite tree: Sitka Spruce (Picea sitchensis)
Host: Shauna Matkovich - The ForestLink
Producer and editor: Magdalena Laas - Unscripted Creatives
02:06
Paul’s background
05:38
The reason behind writing the book
09:39
Development of using wood/timber in building homes and construction of bigger buildings
16:12
Roadblocks to progress
21:11
Comparison between wood/timber, concrete, and steel re. durability
23:44
Evidence about carbon footprint between wood vs concrete vs steel
30:42
Is there a case when wood is not the most sustainable option?
37:34
Case for sustainable forest management
43:53
How can we communicate the importance of investing in sustainable forest production
50:56
A possibly circular process
56:46
Actionable advice
57:06
Contact details
Nature by MaxKoMusic/Soundcloud
Sopwell Woodlands and Scohaboy Bog SAC, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, IRELAND by wild_rumpus/Soundcloud
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Today I’m joined by Eugene Kraamwinkel, CEO of two agribusinesses in Cambodia – Phu Rieng Kratie Ampivath and Dau Tu Saigon Binh Phuoc. In our conversation, Eugene highlights the importance of having a strong Code of Conduct to ensure a long-term sustainable forest business, especially in emerging markets and industries such as forestry and agriculture. We discuss how investors can evaluate business integrity risks and red flags to watch for. Eugene shares a roadmap on how forest business owners can make stepwise improvements toward changing the culture around moral conduct. Eugene also emphasizes that ethical business is not just about committing to transparency and anti-corruption but also about environmental and social ethics.
LinkedIn: Eugene Kraamwinkel
Favorite tree: South African yellowwood (Podocarpus latifolius)
Host: Shauna Matkovich - The ForestLink
Producer and editor: Magdalena Laas - Unscripted Creatives
02:32
Eugene’s background & drive for ethical business practices
4:59
Why is business integrity important in forestry and agribusiness?
07:57
Make investors more confident in emerging markets with ethical business conduct risk
11:44
Examples of government initiatives to bring about change
15:11
Starting point for ethical business conduct
20:14
How can investors be confident that code of conduct will ensure ethical operations in practice
25:47
Example of shift in from unethical to ethical
27:25
Red flags for investors
Link between ethics and climate change and sustainability impact
33:44
Actionable advice
Nature by MaxKoMusic/Soundcloud
Sopwell Woodlands and Scohaboy Bog SAC, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, IRELAND by wild_rumpus/Soundcloud
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Today, I’m joined by Jamie Lawrence, Co-Founder of Xilva. In this conversation, Jamie describes the project evaluation process taken by Xilva, which evaluates nature-based solutions projects for numerous capital providers, from investors to corporates and donors. Jamie describes the six categories of Xilva’s Due Diligence Framework and explains the reasoning for interconnecting these in an assessment. After evaluating more than 300 projects, he explains the three common mistakes project developers make when preparing for funding. He also stresses the merits of the promising projects that cross the Xilva desk. We talk more about the importance of a good strategy on the side of the capital provider to prevent a project from stalling due to misalignment in internal processes.
Xilva
Xilva on LinkedIn
Jamie Lawrence in LinkedIn
Favourite tree: Cork tree (Quercus suber)
Host: Shauna Matkovich - The ForestLink
Producer and editor: Magdalena Laas - Unscripted Creatives
01:13
Background of Xilva & Jamie
03:19
Silva;s services in nature-based solutions space
05:09
Profiles of clients - capital providers
06:49
How do you find projects?
08:06
Screening strategy for projects
10:27
Due diligence to support clients - six categories of framework
16:24
Clients bring own criteria
17:50
External collaborations or expertise, leverage global assets
20:44
Types of projects
21:52
What makes a strong project - and which issues exist in practice/ignored factors
24:50
Communication on the ground, challenges, & risk management
30:11
Strengths in projects, makes projects shine
32:27
Reasons for projects getting stuck
37:14
Effect of voluntary and carbon markets on supply and demand of nature-based solutions. Difference in perceptions in different markets (Global North/Global South)
41:59
Next for Silva
44:43
Actionable advice
47:08
Contact details
Nature by MaxKoMusic/Soundcloud
Sopwell Woodlands and Scohaboy Bog SAC, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, IRELAND by wild_rumpus/Soundcloud
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Today I’m joined by Jasper Renk, Senior Investment Manager for Illiquid Assets in Natural Capital at MEAG. In this advice-packed episode, Jasper shares MEAG’s 15-year experience in investing in Timberland. He explains the most critical determining factors in deciding MEAG’s forest investment jurisdictions and describes how the organisation is well equipped to address climate risks, sitting on 140 years of climate data. Jasper shares his thoughts on how to house your forest investment and sheds light on why forest investment isn’t the most suitable for debt instruments. We talk about sustainability and how it is a core tenant of how they invest, emphasising that prioritising sustainability reduces risk and secures return expectations.
MEAG
MEAG on LinkedIn
Jasper Renk on LinkedIn
Favourite trees: Spruce
Host: Shauna Matkovich - The ForestLink
Producer and editor: Magdalena Laas - Unscripted Creatives
01:02
Background to MEAG & Jasper
04:06
Decision to move into timberland investments
05:11
MEAG's perception of timberland allocation performance
07:58
Shift in how assets are housed in portfolio
10:51
Learning curve for institutional investor
12:52
Risk-reduced way to gain exposure
13:44
Best instrument to get started (and trajectory)
16:33
Risk return profile of MEAG
19:22
Operational side of owned forest assets
22:57
Functioning transactional market
24:38
Investment vehicles, e,g. debt instruments
27:45
Sustainability
32:00
Sustainability objectives
34:28
Beneficiaries stand on sustainability
39:08
Actionable advice
39:50
Contact details
Nature by MaxKoMusic/Soundcloud
Sopwell Woodlands and Scohaboy Bog SAC, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, IRELAND by wild_rumpus/Soundcloud
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In this week's episode, I speak with Bettina Von Hagen, CEO, Co-Founder and Board Chair of EFM. In this conversation we talk about the unique characteristics of Pacific Northwest forests that make this region rich in opportunity for both commercial timber and an array of impact benefits. Bettina goes deep explaining some of the complex ecosystem functions at play in these forests, from migrating salmon to mycorrhizal fungi and the commercial attractiveness of most Pacific Northwest tree species. She describes the 5 R's that EFM applies to their forest management: Rotations, Retention, Reserves, Restoration and Relationships, discusses the carbon market opportunity, provides tips and tricks for making impact forestry operational, and how important active wildfire management strategies are in some of the regions EFM operates.
Ecotrust Forest Management (EFM)
Bettina von Hagen on LinkedIn
Favourite trees: Western redcedar (Thuja plicata), Sitka spruce (Picea sitchensis)
Host: Shauna Matkovich - The ForestLink
Producer and editor: Magdalena Laas - Unscripted Creatives
02:27
Introduction to EFM
07:32
EMF and impact investing
09:26
5 R's of forest management: rotation, retention, reserves, restoration, relationships
14:23
Relationships with communities
16:41
Uptake of this change in silviculture approach
19:19
Others following in EMF's footsteps
22:30
How EMF monetise benefits other than carbon credits
25:33
Carry in funds structure
27:45
Investor sentiments towards forest impact strategies, and impact metrics (besides carbon)
31:43
Fire as part of natural ecosystem
33:22
Gender diversity and equality in the forestry industry, and difference in approaches
40:05
Next for EMF
41:43
Markets for ecosystem services is still very small
44:47
Actionable advice
Nature by MaxKoMusic/Soundcloud
Sopwell Woodlands and Scohaboy Bog SAC, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, IRELAND by wild_rumpus/Soundcloud
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